Originally Posted By monorailblue ^^ The preceding posts (59 and 60) are interesting, but aren't defensible, in my opinion. Again and again and again and again I have ridden Space Mountain when the onboard sound was not working. I bet you have, too. Was I ever "warned"? No. Was "Show" "ruined"? Well, it was "different", but never ruined. Did a single lead ever care one bit? No way. I have also ridden numerous times when the B-lift effects didn't work (not the current effects, but the previous incarnation). Was I ever warned? Again, no. Was "Show" ruined for me? Again, of course. Did a single lead ever care one bit? No way. Once, I even rode and didn't see an Oatmeal Cookie! Can you believe how disastrous that was to my psyche? They didn't even warn me that my experience would be something different than what I had waited for!!! Space Mountain has years and years of operations which demonstrate *irrefutably* that lighting and music are not such fundamental elements of its "Show" that a problem with either mandates a warning or a shut-down. Why should it be any different now? The answer is there is no reason whatsoever why is should be. This "logistical nightmare" should simply be ignored. Just keep cycling--no one would care if some lights came on or went off during their ride. And if only 10 rockets are cycling, and assuming at least 3 are in the station, any sudden change in lighting or sound would only be experienced by a maximum of fewer than 100 people anyway! Repeat: no warnings needed, no one's day ruined, no horrifically bad Show; just keep cycling 'em through. µß
Originally Posted By believe That's the beauty of Disney rides. There's so much to see that you don't see it all. You get a different experience every time.
Originally Posted By soccermermaid But was all of that on new space and old space. A couple weeks a go we had a ring out on lift B, causing us to not be at full operation and if one more went out we would have had to go down for someone to fix it. And there is no reason, besides being in a cold rocket, that you shouldn't have sound. Besides, old space was falling apart and they didn't really have a choice. But switching shows, I know maybe not the leads, but the managers wouldn't let us do. We would have to do showchecks before anyone could go on. Because it would be considered a downtime, no matter what. Even if it's for mechanics to go in there and switch shows.
Originally Posted By monorailblue ^^ I'm not saying it wouldn't be that way; I'm saying that, in my view, it doesn't need to be that way. The effects are ancillary to the real Show which is the mechanical operation of a chilling right through Space. That's just how I see it. And I still say that no one riding would mind one bit. An additional way to solve the problem is to set FP not to distribute passes with return times starting from, say, 3 to 3:30 (though there would be return time end times in that range), and just stop loading. A quick spiel in the queue that the Attraction has stopped loading, but will resume again shortly would be plenty, then just do it. No long explanations--just spiel about every 3 minutes. After the process has been done enough, it will become very routine, and everyone will know how much longer it should take--so that could be incorporated into the spiel. Some people will groan, but it won't be any sort of nightmare situation. The merge point CM holds everyone there, and the greeter CMs hold everyone there, all of them spieling every few minutes. After 15 minutes or so (assuming that how long it takes), everything is good, and you just start re-loading. I can't see that as a nightmare scenario. When Monorail first went bi-directional for DCA construction, we had to explain to VERY LONG, HOT lines of people that, even though a Monorail was finally coming into the station, they wouldn't be boarding it, and it would be driving off empty, and would have to wait for the next (standard for two-train bi-directional). They were confused and hated waiting, but we just explained it as best we could, and it worked. I think it will also work with Space just fine.
Originally Posted By soccermermaid That's what we're hoping, but you also need to look at what is going to be happening at the same time. I'm just looking at it cause I don't like getting yelled at by guests (just yesterday a man punched my friend in the face at the entrance because he said the guy's kid was too short). And, thankfully I know not everyone is that intense. It's the whole fearing the unkown thing, with me at least. It'd seriously be like a downtime, which we're sadly pretty experienced with. Sorry for the frusterations of trying to explain your pov, since you've said it 2-3 times =P.
Originally Posted By trekkeruss <<just yesterday a man punched my friend in the face at the entrance because he said the guy's kid was too short>> I'd be curious to know what happened to the guest. If I was that CM, I might be inclined to press assault charges on that person.
Originally Posted By deadmentellnotales Let me ask you guys if a person in line saw this guy punch a CM in the face and took action to restrain the guy could he get in trouble, I only ask because it would be hard to stand there and witness this without reacting and yet now it seems our society would rather punish the person trying to help.
Originally Posted By soccermermaid I believe my friend did press charges. I don't think anyone restrained the guest, but I wasn't there so I don't know what all happened. Last time that happened to a couple friends of mine doing GC they almost punched the guy back and the guy ended up going to jail.
