Originally Posted By Dabob2 Yes, I've thought so too. There's nothing to say the Republicans COULDN'T ditch the primogeniture pattern, but they've basically held to it for the last 40 years. The only time they didn't go with the metaphorical primogeniture (nominating the second-place guy from the time before) was when they went with LITERAL primogeniture and nominated the eldest son of the previous GOP president. Christie would pretty obviously like to break that pattern. He would still have to get through the primaries, though. And he's just praised the guy the far right considers the anti-Christ. On top of that, he is (relatively speaking) a moderate, in a party that is probably going to be convinced that they didn't go conservative enough in 2012. Plus, remember the last time an outspoken northeastern guy who everybody thought would do great ran for President and got absolutely no traction below the Mason-Dixon line? Lookin' at you, Guiliani.
Originally Posted By DyGDisney >>>A few people might disagree that Mitt Romney is a "pathological liar and narcissistic selfish greed head whose only concern in life is how to amass as much wealth and power as possible, even if it means lying and cheating and screwing over those less fortunate than himself."<<< Maybe a few but certainly not me. I don't understand how people continue to support him in all his lies. He isn't at all a genuine person, and everything he does that is supposed to be "good" seems to be a show. He is smarmy, and I can't wait to see the smirk wiped off his face. If you've ever seen the clip of him being interviewed about driving 12 hours with his dog strapped to the roof of his car you know what I'm talking about. Ick! He disgusts me.
Originally Posted By Labuda "There is no argument that can be used when the reply is always "That's a lie."" This brings to mind something 2oony once said that is among my "favorite quotations" on Facebook: Facts don't generally have two sides.
Originally Posted By oc_dean >>How can any Romney supporter justify this?<< As long as he's the Republican ticket .. and a Mormon ... Lie all you want. It's all part of the game! A game that makes you wonder if us human beings have evolved beyond neanderthals!
Originally Posted By ecdc >>I can't wait to see Hillary wipe the floor with Little Ricky.<< Think it'll be her? She'll be 69 in 2016, just a few days before the election. Certainly not that that's old, but do you think people will do the math...two terms and she's out at 77?
Originally Posted By Dabob2 Same age as Reagan, younger than McCain. I think if she wants it, the Democrats will feel almost obligated to nominate her, considering how close she came last time, and how loyal she's been to Obama. And I think there will be an excitement about the first woman president that will be similar to the excitement of 2008.
Originally Posted By Labuda I'm calling Julian Castro (current Mayor of my home town, San Antonio, TX) as the Democratic VP nominee in '16.
Originally Posted By SuperDry ^^^ If Obama wins a second term tonight, do you think there's a chance the Dems will pick someone other than Biden in 2016? I can't remember if Biden has already said he would not seek the nomination for some reason. Another possibility would be that the Dems simply consider him too old: were he to win and serve 2 terms starting in 2016, he'd be 84 when he left office.
Originally Posted By DyGDisney People have mentioned Hillary Clinton. I would be all for that if that meant Bill Clinton was back in the White House.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 If Obama wins, I think the most likely 2016 nominees (in order), assuming they decide to run, would be Hillary, Andrew Cuomo, and nobody's-talking-about-him-yet (who the Democrats always seem to have one of - literally nobody was talking about Bill Clinton in 1988 except as "did you see that Arkansas yokel who wouldn't shut up when he was introducing Dukakis?") Biden... I like him, but he is getting older, and he seems much more like a Veep than a president to me.
Originally Posted By TomSawyer I think that Hillary Clinton would be the clear front runner in 2016 regardless of whether or not Obama wins a second term.
Originally Posted By Labuda SuperDry - I doubt that VP Biden will attempt to run in 2016. I suspect that after 8 years in office with the lunacy on the right, he'll be ready to retire and enjoy his golden years a bit more privately.
