Originally Posted By disneysharks2 Some more!! In 1979 and 1980(Carter years), inflation averaged 13 percent; by 1984, it was 4 percent -- and falling (Reagan Years). Truth is a funny thing ha
Originally Posted By fkurucz >>“If government subsidized beaches, we would have a shortage of sand.”<< Actually, the gov't does subsidize beaches. In SoCal gov't pays to replenish sand that gets washed away by winter storms, it pays to have beaches kept clean, it pays for life guards, etc. The Gipper was an idiot.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<In 1979 and 1980(Carter years), inflation averaged 13 percent; by 1984, it was 4 percent -- and falling (Reagan Years).>> And unemployment increased from 7% to 10%. Inflation decreases when everyone is out of work. We've seen that the past two years.
Originally Posted By disneysharks2 "The Gipper was an idiot." yes that's why he is loved by 10's of millions of people. And how many love you?
Originally Posted By fkurucz "In 1979 and 1980(Carter years), inflation averaged 13 percent; by 1984, it was 4 percent -- and falling (Reagan Years)." Inflation was tamed by very high interest rates imposed by the Federal Reserve. Reagan not only had nothing to do with that, he actually tried to get the Fed to lower the interest rates as they strangled the economy (which is how you kill inflation). It was Paul Volker (Chainman of the Federal Reserve) who tamed inflation by raising interest rates. And guess who appointed him? That's right, it was Jimmy Carter. Facts can be so inconvenient for Teabaggers. Those high interest rates were a very bitter, but necessary medicine that had to be taken.
Originally Posted By fkurucz "yes that's why he is loved by 10's of millions of people." Millions Lady Gaga and Kim Kardashian. So what's your point?
Originally Posted By disneysharks2 "And unemployment increased from 7% to 10%" Unemployment dropped steadily down to 5.2% in 1989 when Reagan left office. But nice try, it was almost true.
Originally Posted By disneysharks2 "Millions Lady Gaga and Kim Kardashian. So what's your point?" True by children they are loved. What is you age may I ask?
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<Unemployment dropped steadily down to 5.2% in 1989 when Reagan left office.>> And dropped to 3.9% under Clinton.
Originally Posted By fkurucz >>Unemployment dropped steadily down to 5.2% in 1989 when Reagan left office. But nice try, it was almost true. << Yep, after Jimmy Carter appointed Paul Volkers interest rates tamed inflation, the situation improved. The deficit spending helped too.
Originally Posted By fkurucz "True by children they are loved." Not necessarily true. Also millions of aging boomers love Elton John, John Lennon, etc. >>What is you age may I ask? << I'm 50.
Originally Posted By disneysharks2 "Facts can be so inconvenient for Teabaggers" Not a tea party person here, but do agree with them on many issues. As far as teabagging, thats a liberal fixation don't you think? Hope that's not over your head, but then maybe that's the way you like it.
Originally Posted By disneysharks2 50 and still think the way you do. hmmmm Here is a quote for you, you may like it. "If you're not a liberal at twenty you have no heart, if you're not a conservative at forty you have no brain." That was Winston Churhill.. and you what 50?
Originally Posted By fkurucz ^^I'm not a liberal bozo. Everyone here knows that I'm a social conservative. I also love the "Not a tea party person here, but do agree with them on many issues." A love the contradiction. The whole "I agree with them a lotm but I'm bot one of them" is a BS cop out. I also love how you resort to ah hominem attacks when you lack facts to back up your positions. A real class act. I will now heed the the warnings of other and I will stop feeding you. Toodles!
Originally Posted By disneysharks2 Oh yea forgot Jimmy Carter was the one who fixed the economy in the 1980's, oh yea must have missed that! (with just about every other person on earth but maybe you, Hey I like loyalty too, but you need to open those eyes just a bit.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo >>>That was Winston Churhill.. and you what 50?<<< Winston Churchill was also a sexual abuser and was deemed to have mental health problems before he died. Yes, he is loved because he was a successful wartime leader, but he could not get ellected before the war nor after it. He also said democracy was the lesser evil, though that might just be true.
Originally Posted By Labuda Thanks, Dave. Leave it to our resident semi-Brit to give us the facts on Churchill.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 Actually, Churchill WAS Prime Minister after the war, from 1951-1955, to be exact. Of course, in the parliamentary system, Churchill was not voted in as Prime Minster per se; only the constituents of his district voted him in. But the voters returned a majority of Conservatives, and he was their leader - thus he became P.M. (It's kind of like if the Speaker of the House became Prime Minister.) Interestingly, despite his great popularity during the war, it did not translate into the Conservatives winning the first post-war election. (Chamberlain was also a Conservative, which many people don't know, and Churchill actually led a coalition government with major Labour party figures in important cabinet positions, which doesn't happen during peacetime.) Labour won the 1945 elections handily and the Attlee government was the one who laid the groundwork for what we think of as the modern British mixed (capitalist/socialist) economy. (History major nerd with a term at Oxford here.)
Originally Posted By disneysharks2 Just saw a poll tonight that said RR, was our greatest President. I have to say I agree.
