Originally Posted By vbdad55 <I like that. I had a "South Side of Chicago" moment with a coworker just last week. Sometimes you gotta . . .< yep, for me " you can take the kid out of the South Side, but you can't take the South Side out of the kid "
Originally Posted By kpwdwfan <<yep, for me " you can take the kid out of the South Side, but you can't take the South Side out of the kid ">> That's not such a bad thing, it can come in handy sometimes.
Originally Posted By ssWEDguy I'm all for diversity and celebrating our cultural differences. But where does the cultural difference line end, and the public hygiene line begin? I have seen more than one instance of children peeing in the bushes instead of going into the nearby Restroom, less than 50 feet away. And these children were nearly teeners, not pre-school. Is it that they worry about not being able to see what goes on in the restroom and the bushes is a preferred location? Or maybe they simply don't know where the restroom is? I'm kind of stuck with this one. One side of me wants to inform them that this behavior is not acceptable in the U.S. This is a hygiene thing, not a cultural diversity thing.
Originally Posted By Goofyernmost And now from the nations that brought you the plague...here'sssss Johnny peeing in the bushes. No class at all!!! Just kidding about the first part. I know that many USAers are guilty of this as well. And the second line applies to them. It doesn't really matter what social level one comes from, no class is no class.
Originally Posted By kpwdwfan Maybe in some countries people pee in the bushes all the time and this is normal for them. I say in that in jest but that brings me back to my original question, do people feel compelled to say something to this disrespectful people and at what point do we say enough is enough.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <And now from the nations that brought you the plague...here'sssss Johnny peeing in the bushes. No class at all!!! Just kidding about the first part. I know that many USAers are guilty of this as well. And the second line applies to them. It doesn't really matter what social level one comes from, no class is no class.< I'm trying to figure what has caused this uptick in this behavior - and you're right, it is not limited to other country visitors. So many people have commented on this, and last year we were watching two kids pee on the LBV golf course while running in the rain -- two boys , who were with other boys and girls their age -- say 12 -14 . I find it disgusting and wonder what is driving this - is it just laziness, or just being a pig ?
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <<<yep, for me " you can take the kid out of the South Side, but you can't take the South Side out of the kid ">> That's not such a bad thing, it can come in handy sometimes.< thee are times I wish my kids had some street savy, they have grown up in an idealic suburb ( seriously- has ben in top 2 places to live - Fortune / Money magazine ) in the country 5 years running since they started the articles...and sometimes they believe everywhere is like this..
Originally Posted By ssWEDguy >> do people feel compelled to say something to these disrespectful people and at what point do we say enough is enough << Exactly. I'm stuck on this. I can't tell if it's a cultural thing, or just plain old disrespect. Disrespect knows no boundaries.
Originally Posted By danyoung >...of the adult leaders started his group of younger kids chanting something in another language and he encouraged them to bang on a nearby garbage can while chanting...< You've got to realize that in many cultures this is not unacceptable behavior. I've done a bunch of work down in Brazil, and this chanting thing is quite common. Here we line up our kids in 2 straight lines, no gum, no talking. In Brazil they are always lively, always musical. The teachers will often direct the kids in one of these chants, with the kids adding percussion wherever they find it. It's simply a cultural difference. Now, this doesn't excuse general rudeness, sticking gum to the inside of attractions, talking during shows, etc. Line cutting is a bit more of a grey area, as again culturally they don't much stand in lines - they just crowd up to the front. I've always thought Disney could do a better job of educating other cultures to what is proper behavior, doing it through well placed brochures with the tour agencies (just like they distribute tipping information in all languages).
Originally Posted By fundog58 Overall, I've been pretty lucky in my Disney visits, not encountering too much bad behavior. One eye-opening exception was last October when my wife and I visited Animal Kingdom. She had a knee injury but didn't want to call off the visit as it was our only week off together, so we rented her a motorized wheelchair/scooter. As we made our way around the park, it was amazing how many people cut and darted directly in front of her path. Mainly children, but some adults too. Lucky for them she was a good "driver" or they might have been flattened!
Originally Posted By kpwdwfan How can anyone justify 20 to 30 people pushing and shoving people aside to get up in line with a couple of other people. I can't see how that acceptable in any culture. Rude is rude there's no two ways about it. It just seems like common sense to me. On the otherhand I'm the first person to step aside if if mother or father needs to catch up with their family because of a bathroom problem or some other problem has occurred with their childern. It's sure better then letting them let their kids pee in a bush. Even if a small group gets seperated from each other I have no problem letting them go by, as they respectful and say excuse me.
Originally Posted By Kimrue << In Brazil they are always lively, always musical. The teachers will often direct the kids in one of these chants, with the kids adding percussion wherever they find it. It's simply a cultural difference.>> I don't mind kids singing and being "happy" in general...but this chanting/banging seemed more like a "let us in" type thing as they seemed almost angry about having to wait. I have a LOT of little kids in my family and I'm on my 3 child myself, I know how kids act, American kids also are encouraged in sing songy ways in schools and home settings to pass the time or just express excitement. This was RUDE, DISRUPTIVE, and plain old annoying..some dramatic people in line were actually holding their ears to get the point across. People singing in large groups is sort of endearing and sweet, this wasn't it was obnoxious. Peeing in bushes, I have NEVER seen, I've been going to WDW since I was six months old, I'm now 30 and I've seriously never seen this. I'm not saying it hasn't happened but I would be totally grossed out, enough to say something, definately.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros "We were in the COP queue one time and we saw this woman tell her son to go pee in a bush because she didn't want to get out of the line." Well that wait for COP can often be in excess of two minutes. Why would you have your kid pee in a bush, when the bathroom is 100 feet away and there is never really any line to speak of. That's just sickening how self absorbed people can be.
Originally Posted By danyoung >...but this chanting/banging seemed more like a "let us in" type thing as they seemed almost angry about having to wait...< I wasn't there, Kimrue, so I bow to your analysis. I can only say that the typical Brazilian partying group is loud, obnoxious, and a bit frightening if you're not used to it. It may have been that, or it may have been a group of hoodlums begging to be let in.
Originally Posted By Kimrue <<I wasn't there, Kimrue, so I bow to your analysis. I can only say that the typical Brazilian partying group is loud, obnoxious, and a bit frightening if you're not used to it. It may have been that, or it may have been a group of hoodlums begging to be let in.>> I'm not sure where you are going with this, you're right you weren't there. I've also been exposed to many different cultures. I've actually dated a brazilian guy for two years and am very well aware of their cultures and customs. Yes they are very musical, and lively. I don't find brazilians scary at all. I find a group of loud people being obnoxious irritating and rude no matter what their cultural background happens to be. I'm also sick of hearing, oh it's just cultural differences, I don't care what it is. If it's rude, offensive and affecting my personal space it's unacceptable to me. Just my opinion.
Originally Posted By DVC_dad I deface property all the time. I have no problem with it. I destroy every morsel of delicious food I can find there.
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORGOCH: Well, Heck! What's so bad 'bout peein' in a bush, fer frog's sake!! I does it all the time! ORDDU: Yes, dear, we know. ORWEN: And that's just one of MANY reasons we're embarrassed to tears every time we have to go out in public with you, old biddy!!
Originally Posted By tomcon21 This has probably been mentioned before, but it really irritates me to see gum stuck all over the park-- especially in Splash Mountain. I don't get it. Somepays PAYS to come and see the attractions in the park and then turns around and defaces it.
Originally Posted By TMICHAEL As for the idiots cutting in line....Not past me they don't. Like vbdad and a few others I am blessed to be over 6'-- 220lbs and I workout regularly, so all I do is stand in the middle of the queue and stay there. Unless the person comming up actually says "excuse me" and points to their group that is just a little bit ahead, I stand my ground and don't let them through. My right and its all of your's out there too. If they have a problem with it, well, thats just too bad. Tell it to a CM. ;-) I have actually gone as far as not saying anything to these fools until we reach the load and then demand that they leave the attraction. The CM's usually kick them out because all the other people aroud finally speak up and back me up. As for the peeing in the bushes thing, I get very loud and just embarass the heck out of these fools. What can you do though, its a little kid usually and he/she is being told to do this by a parent. I figure if I embarass the parent, they'll think twice and find a bathroom before doing it again. I know, maybe thats a little wishful thinking but I like screwing with people. But yeah, if I was really bothered by any stupid/rude action of a guest, I'd find a CM and get Disney involved. Usually a security CM as they sould have the most power to do anything.
Originally Posted By Crazy4WDW I refuse to let people jump in front of me in line. We have have a code word that we use when we think someone is going to try and get past us - we yell out "HW" - human wall. LOL We all put our hands on our hips and stick our elbows out. Also, backpacks work great to keep the offending parties at bay.
