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    Originally Posted By andyll

    << That's a big "if," of course. >>

    Not that big of 'if' at this point.

    There is something like that in there.
     
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    Originally Posted By fkurucz

    So should Mitt's campaign slogan be "I'm not a crook"?
     
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    Originally Posted By Dabob2

    Oh, there's something funky in those returns, for sure. Otherwise, no way he'd suffer this death from a thousand cuts by refusing to release them; he's made the decision that there's SOMETHING in there that would do him more damage by releasing them than the damage he's already sustaining by hiding them.

    But tax amnesty? aka a de facto admission of ILLEGAL tax evasion? That would be nuclear.
     
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    Originally Posted By gurgitoy2

    That would be pretty disastrous for him. It's all a guess at this point, because he won't release them. I suppose he doesn't have to, but the chorus of people asking, and the fact that it was his own father who started the trend of releasing a decade of returns just make it that much harder for him to ignore. I'm sure he will stay put on this issue, because if there was nothing to hide then he would ultimately do it. Look at what happened with Obama's birth certificate, he wouldn't budge for a while, but the relentless attacks made him do it anyway. Romney obviously feels like there is something not worth sharing that would be worse than the constant hounding he's getting now.
     
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    Originally Posted By Vic Sage

    "Otherwise, no way he'd suffer this death from a thousand cuts by refusing to release them; he's made the decision that there's SOMETHING in there that would do him more damage by releasing them than the damage he's already sustaining by hiding them."

    So why is the President refusing to release the fast and furious documents? What is he hiding there?
     
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    Originally Posted By Dabob2

    Possibly the identity of undercover agents.

    But nice try.
     
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    Originally Posted By mawnck

    Jeez, Dabob. Quit it!!
     
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    Originally Posted By Vic Sage

    "Possibly the identity of undercover agents."

    Do you have any evidence of that?
     
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    Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan

    <a href="http://www.legendsandlore.com/sockpuppets.html" target="_blank">http://www.legendsandlore.com/...ets.html</a>
     
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    Originally Posted By Vic Sage

    Is that a no?
     
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    Originally Posted By Dabob2

    "Jeez, Dabob. Quit it!!"

    You're a stronger man than I. But I'm trying.
     
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    Originally Posted By ecdc

    It's like quitting cigarettes. Do they make a Right-Wing Douche patch you can wear?
     
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    Originally Posted By oneyepete

    I found this article interesting.

    <a href="http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2012/07/18/156632/most-members-of-congress-keep.html" target="_blank">http://www.mcclatchydc.com/201...eep.html</a>
     
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    Originally Posted By ecdc

    That is interesting. I wasn't aware of that.

    I wonder how much of it is "refuses to release" or it's just not on the radar like it is for Presidents.

    But given lobbying, it should be. I'd love to see financial transparency from Congress. I think if Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi are going to slam Mitt, they ought to be upfront with their own tax returns. But Dylan Ratigan was right, our Congress is bought and sold, so it doesn't surprise me.
     
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    Originally Posted By fkurucz

    Is there a precedent for a presidential candidate releasing his college transcripts? While we're at it, how about his past electric bills, or maybe his proof of auto insurance?

    If he complies, the right will just come up another cockamamie, irrelevant demand. Anything to distract from what they are most likely trying to cover up: that Romney is a crook.
     
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    Originally Posted By Vic Sage

    "If he complies, the right will just come up another cockamamie, irrelevant demand."

    You mean, like the left is doing to Romney?
     
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    Originally Posted By inlandemporer

    Releasing 6-8 years of tax returns, sometimes more, has been standard procedure for every major-party candidate for president for almost half a century, so it's hardly irrelevant.

    I know I'd like to see them. I haven't made up my mind yet and it disturbs me that he seems to be hiding something. Everyone else has done it, including some people who were pretty wealthy when they ran and took the usual legitimate tax avoidance routes. Did Romney do something not legitimate? He has only himself to blame for making it look that way.
     
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    Originally Posted By gurgitoy2

    And that's the problem for me. We can't assume he's guilty of anything of course. However, by his not submitting them, he's making it seem like something is fishy. It might be just a bit easier to deal with if it weren't for the fact that his father kind of started the tradition. He's just making it look like there is something improper, even if there isn't.
     
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    Originally Posted By fkurucz

    >>He's just making it look like there is something improper, even if there isn't.<<

    Where there's smoke, there's fire.

    This reminds me of Nixon trying to cover up Watergate.
     
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    Originally Posted By Vic Sage

    "However, by his not submitting them, he's making it seem like something is fishy. It might be just a bit easier to deal with if it weren't for the fact that his father kind of started the tradition. He's just making it look like there is something improper, even if there isn't."

    Did you feel the same way about the President refusing to release his long form birth certificate? Or did you think his opponents were just trying to raise an issue?

    Do you think the President is hiding something by not releasing his school records? Do you think he is covering up something by claiming executive privilege in the Fast and Furious investigation?
     

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