Originally Posted By TDLFAN >>According to the following slide from recent EuroDisney shareholder meeting, they have 20% visitors from UK<< Well, that proves my point. Thanks. >>you would be amazed at how expensive the Soarin' movie was. Now it wasn't a Captain EO it was pricey getting all the relevant permits and filming windows.<< Lee, is this why the final price tag on DCA was so high??? (Hehehe...)
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Well it's not surprising more Brits go to WDW at the mo. It costs a negligable amount more to travel to FLA than Paris, and when you get there, it's cheaper, the customer service is better, they speak the same language (most brits are quite biggoted about this point) and quite often the weather is better too. If wedidn't have to cross the channel to get there, I am sure more Brits would go. But when a Night at Pop Century is nearly half the price of the Cheyenne, well fo many, it's a no brainer. DLP was beautiful, and there are some nice new additions. But I have stopped campagning for Brits to go there. I only get grief when they return. Often because of the poor service.
Originally Posted By TDLFAN Interesting.... Because while I have had my fair share of bad CMs at DLP and WDW, some CMs at both DLP and WDW have been quite helpful and downright genuine friendly towards me. Or do you thing that maybe because I can speak some french (at DLP) and spanish (at WDW) helps me receive better service from those CMs who speak those languages? Exception to the rule: TDR, where the most "engligh" unknowledgeable CM will still find a way to find someone to help you on the spot, and I hardly speak japanese.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo I think you are right TDLfan. I speak French and German, so I find we always have a great time at DLP. But my parents can't stand DLP becuase of the cast and guest behaviour, and I really do put this down to the language and culture gap. I know a few LPers here who have a great time, and do not speak French, but they are fans under the spell. The the average Joe from the UK who sees this as no more than a glorified six Flags, they would rather have people thaat speak their language. Most of my non LP friends who like DLP tend to enjoy going to France anyway. Also, there is a huge rivalry between the French and English that is over 1000 years old. This does not help.
Originally Posted By KiNOO Leemac: I didn't say the contrary, I said that between Philharmagic replacing animagique and SOARING coming to WDS, Soaring is more plausible as it appears on many expansion plans (along with the new Tram Tour and the Hub) whereas NEVER Philharmagic was meant to replace any of the Cinémagique or Animagique (Dlp.info got it clearly wrong, but it's not the first time, the site became less serious over the years)
Originally Posted By The Ghost Nice Kinoo, We are not making these things up and it does come from a very good source. No reason to put us down like that. We NEVER said that it will be the new ride for 2009. We ad it as a rumour! Nothing is thru untill DLRP says it is. Bringing a rumour is never wrong! as it has not been announced yet! We like a good discussion, and we like to hear about everything out there. You have proof of what you say? send it to us and when the source is reliable we will bring it as a news item. Pointing fingers is easy!
Originally Posted By oc_dean It would be nice if this "rumor" was for a "placemaking" project for WDSP instead, with an original attraction, on the level or better than "Soarin' over California". Seems putting up "Philharmagic" isn't much of an effort. It's a movie theater with chairs, and a film already made .. All they have to do is put in a request with Kodak to make another print. :O) Heh-hee .... Pardon my sarcasm I've heard so many nasty things about this park - 100 times worse than DCA!! Slapping "Philharmagic" together seems relatively easy. I'm sure it will help. Why it would take through 2009 to create is beyond me!! ~ Again ... throw 4 walls up .. a movie screen .. and whoola!! No big wuff :~ Here in California .. in the DLR, with HISTA, "It's Tough To Be A Bug", Muppet Vision .... and past 3D film: Captain EO .. these 3D film attractions don't seem to be great "Headliner" attractions. Just nice medium additions with a short "shelf life" ... as film based attractions seem to get boring fairly quickly.
Originally Posted By Any Huis I have to agree with koobar. It seems that most of the "new" attractions being talked about are just duplicates of things that are in other parks. Would be nice if the Imagineers would start using their imagination! What I look forward to most about going to DLP is seeing the unique attractions there that I haven't already seen in Florida or California. I would feel the same about Tokyo or Hong Kong, and when I go to Anaheim, our priority is always the attractions that aren't also at our "regular park", WDW. This is what has made Soarin' and the Matterhorn so good -- they are (were) unique-to-California things.
Originally Posted By gurgitoy2 I think the reason we are seeing cloned attractions appearing at DLRP, is strictly budget. Since the resort is hard on cash, they are trying to get the most bang for the buck, so since these attractions have already been developed, there is no R&D costs, and all they need to do is install them. Much cheaper than creating a brand new attraction from scratch.
Originally Posted By irishfan Not all the new attractions at Paris are clones, dont forget about the New Nemo attraction going into the WDSP. From the art work I've seen it actually looks pretty good.
Originally Posted By u k fan <<What I look forward to most about going to DLP is seeing the unique attractions there that I haven't already seen in Florida or California.>> As a European that's how I feel about a trip to WDW or DL!!!
Originally Posted By CMM1 I'm surprised that Disney hasn't decided to put a version of Splash Mt. in DLP - it can't be the weather since the side-by-side logs are used in the much colder TDL park. With all of the onsite hotels at DLP now, you would think that people wouldn't be that adverse to getting wet in the summer - they could always return to the hotel, change and come back later. They do have plenty of space back in the corner of the river area to put the attraction.
Originally Posted By Any Huis No Splash Mtn at DLP: My guess as to the reason? Cost!! I would think that Splash Mtn is among the most expensive rides ever! With Tower of Terror already going up, they can't afford (or WON'T afford) another big-ticket ride.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo CMM1 - that is the exact location originally planned for Splash. In the Farm area. As for the wetness factor, as has been proven in Tokyo, the imagineers can build a fairly dry version. However, the cost is the key issue. DLP is totally broke. God knows how much money it has lost over the last 14 years. It would be a big gamble for them to build it.
Originally Posted By KiNOO there are plans for a Splash I saw, the ride building was located behind the railroad lines, the Chapparal was still standing with another entrance I believe, whereas the Frontierland Depot was moving further near the Critter Coral which would have disappered or relocated. The queue and the loading area was located on the actual railroad station , the ride would go to the area where you can see now the little windmill and all the poultry when you queue for Tarzan show.
Originally Posted By KiNOO But for now, there is no words about building it as it was.. New plans may have been released since, I don't know.
Originally Posted By oc_dean There'll come a point though they can iether let the park stagnate and see the numbers fall ... Or pump some additional blood into new attractions, and drive attendance up. It's been what? 10 years since the last major attraction? Space Mountain in 1995. If Tower of Terror is anything like it's "DCA" counterpart ... I don't see how an atttraction with a whopping 2 minute and 15 second ride time is going to drive interest up. Especially in a park worse than DCA - imagine that! Then there's rides like H.M., PotC, and Splash Mountain that can be anywhere from 10 to 15 minutes in length - Those are the rides that I feel garner the public's interest.
Originally Posted By CMM1 Investors in any country don't like to throw "good money after bad" so if DLP resort is really broke financially you can't expect to see any new attractions in the DL park portion.
Originally Posted By irishfan In fairness though, DL park has just received a new attraction in the form of Buzz, is due to receive a new parade next year, and I've also heard a few rumours that the Pirates overlay is also going to happen in 2007. (KiNOO have you heard anything on this?) This combined with all the refurbishments that are going on resort wide, as well as the building of the Tower and Toon studios in the park next door, you cant really say they are letting the resort stagnate.
