Originally Posted By wahooskipper You've got to be kidding me. Are you denying the effects of painkillers? Athletes get addicted to the stuff all the time. Half of Hollywood has been addicted to it at one time or another. It doesn't make it right but the guy came clean. You despise him so much as to put on the same blinders you and other liberals claim he wears.
Originally Posted By StillThePassHolder "You've got to be kidding me. Are you denying the effects of painkillers? Athletes get addicted to the stuff all the time. Half of Hollywood has been addicted to it at one time or another." I'm assuming you're taking to me. And no, I'm not kidding. I've caught over a couple of hundred embezzlers in my time, and many of them get quite a rush from their crimes. As for the rest of what you wrote, I really don't know what you're talking about. This isn't any liberal/conservative issue. A loudmouth public figure got caught doing something he railed against for years. It happens all the time. And that makes him a hypocrite of the first order.
Originally Posted By cape cod joe Wahoo--I think it's time for you to take that advice you gave KT and walk as not a lot of people here are going to budge. The funniest thing is when some in this thread defend the crack users as being NO worse than the "pain killer" users. Then when Rush makes a deal, they use the reverse argument??????????? It is amusing.
Originally Posted By wahooskipper Well, perhaps you are right. To compare a crack addict to someone who got addicted to legal painkillers just smacks of an agenda. There are a lot of other reasons to dislike Rush. This one seems rather cynical and trivial.
Originally Posted By StillThePassHolder "To compare a crack addict to someone who got addicted to legal painkillers just smacks of an agenda." Who actually made that connection, in the same sentence, besides beau? Certainly not me.
Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA "What I did, I did knowingly. What I did, I did because I wanted to do it, but I knew it was wrong the whole time. It's a powerful addiction this stuff has." -- Gary, the Crack Addict who is unemployed and likes being a crack addict
Originally Posted By wahooskipper Well, there is one. And vbdad, respectfully, drew a similar comparison many pages ago.
Originally Posted By StillThePassHolder Never mind, I just found it. The first mention was in post 11 by ecdc. Anybody here ever smoked crack? I haven't. Haven't done oxycontin, either. But in my 20's, I did my fair share of recreational drugs. I also have had Vicoden and Hydrocodone prescribed for my chronic back and neck problems. And I have done coke. Not proud of that now, but it is what it is. I can say with some degree of familiarity that anyone doing 30 oxycontin a day, if indeed Limbaugh was, can fly from L.A. to New York without the benefit of an airplane. From the FDA's website: 1. What kind of medicine is OxyContin? OxyContin contains oxycodone, a very strong narcotic pain reliever similar to morphine. OxyContin is designed so that the oxycodone is slowly released over time, allowing it to be used twice daily. You should never break, chew, or crush the OxyContin tablet since this causes a large amount of oxycodone to be released from the tablet all at once, potentially resulting in a dangerous or fatal drug overdose. MORPHINE, folks. So, similar to crack? Try heroin. <a href="http://www.fda.gov/cder/drug/infopage/oxycontin/oxycontin-qa.htm" target="_blank">http://www.fda.gov/cder/drug/i nfopage/oxycontin/oxycontin-qa.htm</a> And to try and make a distinct between crack and oxycontin is just silly. A narcotic is a narcotic, whether it is legally prescribed or not. That's like trying to differentiate between Ken Lay and John Gotti. They're both thieves who should be locked up.
Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA Is there not a connection to EVERY kind of addiction? Does not caffiene hit the same 'pleasure' part of the brain that heroin hits? I don't understand why we need to make a distinction that Rush Limbaugh's addiction to oxycodone is somehow more noble than Gary the Crack Addict.
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< I don't understand why we need to make a distinction that Rush Limbaugh's addiction to oxycodone is somehow more noble than Gary the Crack Addict. >>> Because despite all that has happened, drawing such a distinction allows people that support Rush to continue to support harsh treatment toward other drug abusers that are somehow "different."
Originally Posted By mrichmondj I always figured Rush was high when he was doing his radio show -- I mean what sensible minded person would make the statements that he makes unless they were on drugs or something? ;-)
Originally Posted By Beaumandy <<All this defending of Limbaugh is so incredibly transparent as to defy credibility. if he didn't do anything wrong, he wouldn't be taking any deal.>> The prosecuter said Rush was in a drug ring and they had 10 counts against him when this all started! Remember those days? The left was going crazy about Rush being a drug dealer and addict... much like they are trying to make DeLay, Rove and Libby criminals when there is nothing there. It gets tiring to have the left use their every so lame character attack as the only way to get their " message " out. It's why they lose and it's why Rush is stronger than ever. Here we are with Rush pleading not gulity to anything and his record being cleared... yet you, a legal guy, want to nail Limbaugh and not the irresponisble prosecuter? Finally, calling Rush a hypocite is also not accurate and simple minded. If Rush had railed on and on about the evil of doctor shopping and the irresponsibility of being addicted to painkillerts that would be one thing. He never did this. He might have said doing drugs ( heroin, crack, lsd, pot, etc ) was a way to stop yourself from being all you could be... whcih is totally the truth.
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Originally Posted By Beaumandy <<Because despite all that has happened, drawing such a distinction allows people that support Rush to continue to support harsh treatment toward other drug abusers that are somehow "different.">> You still think a person who decided to get high by doing crack or ecstasy (sp) is in the same ballpark as the person who got hooked on the medication his doctor gave him? Why am I not surprised. Rush should get credit for going straight to rehab, taking responsibility and never making the same mistake or having a relapse. He preaches self responsibility, not being perfect. He practice what he preaches and could take any liberal on here or elesewhere in the world and stomp you in any debate on any topic. That.... is why the left hate him. What Rush says matters and his opinions and viewpoints have shaped the country.
Originally Posted By StillThePassHolder Oh man.... I can't take...... I mean really.... my neighbor just called to ask if I was alright. .... that's some funny stuff there in 113 and 115......
Originally Posted By Beaumandy <<Please stop making posts like number 113. My sides are hurting too much from the laughter, and I just spit up on the monitor. I haven't read anything THAT funny in a long time. Ow........>> I see your making your " I don't have an answer " post like always after you get schooled. Keep laughing though. What is your excuse for ---- the prosecutors, at the time, claimed they had evidence that Limbaugh committed at least 10 felonies! It now appears James Martz, the prosecutor who headed the investigation into Limbaugh's prescription drug use, was bluffing when he said that medical records "indicate evidence that would support in excess of 10 felony counts for violations." Prosecutors said Limbaugh, in any deal, would have to plead guilty to doctor shopping, a third-degree felony punishable by up to five years in prison. [Prosecutors also suggested at the time that Limbaugh may have been involved in illegal money laundering.]
Originally Posted By Beaumandy <<Oh man.... I can't take...... I mean really.... my neighbor just called to ask if I was alright. .... that's some funny stuff there in 113 and 115......>> This is why I would destroy you in court. You simply don't have the skills to debate and go to being a joke in about 3 questions.... much like the liberals you now use as your source for out of touch talking points. Again, why do you support a prosecuter who claimed Rush broke many, many laws, only to come up totally empty almost 3 years later?