Originally Posted By americaonparade I was told get there by 7am....I am sure we will receive something in the mail to confirm...man, entry into Club 33....I feel like Charlie and I just won the Golden Ticket!
Originally Posted By americaonparade It will be a mystery...I will arrive with a mystery lady....we will blend in and none will know the identity of the mysterious AOP... I am told though, that I look like Billy Dee Williams....
Originally Posted By jarrethastings I'll be there on Sunday too! Can't believe I'll be on the other side of that door!
Originally Posted By bison74 Americaonparade, You will love it. Not only will they let you take pictures, but you can also buy Club 33 collectibles (I know, I know, everything's for sale -- but this is CLUB 33). At the last Herb Ryman event, they gave us about 20 minutes after we ate to just wander around the restaurant and take pictures. Since the park wasn't open yet, they even opened up the balconies. To this day I still brag about the "aerial shots" I have of New Orleans Square. It is so overwhelming. I couldn't stop thinking of how HISTORICAL everything is. My wife and I are really looking forward to Sunday! We never thought we'd EVER get to go. When we went once we counted our lucky stars. Now we get the benefit of reliving everything. TIP: If you don't want to buy anything, at least you can steal all the Club 33 napkins you can fit into a pocket See everyone on Sunday morning!
Originally Posted By americaonparade I cannot wait. I am truly paying the big big bucks for the 1st 90 minute breakfast.
Originally Posted By bison74 My wife and I got our itinerary today -- very exciting stuff. It's pretty cool to see the menu (something they did not provide in advance, last time). Hmmmmm! Steaks Otherwise, it looks like the same stuff, which is cool. We've been counting down the days and cannot wait until Sunday.
Originally Posted By Ursula Mushroom eggs? What is up with that? I'm looking forward to the steaks, though, too. Six-fifteen in the ayem is pretty darn early!
Originally Posted By imawebsurfer I hear that it is supposed to rain this weekend. Do they have a contingency plan for the speaker's portion of the event in case of a downpour?
Originally Posted By americaonparade Whats most important is: How much will the commemartive pin be worth on Ebay? Thats what Im talking about!
Originally Posted By fabdisbabe Whats most important is: How much will the commemartive pin be worth on Ebay? Thats what Im talking about!>> Nothing, I hope. Fab
Originally Posted By americaonparade sorry. doubled (even tripled) all of the mansion merchandise bought. The Saturday event pin will fetch $100, minimum on Ebay. Lets be honest: most persons buy products from these events (or, attend these events) to attain the high valued collectibles attached to it. To me, I get to see a cool event and eat steak omlettes basically for free, after selling the pin.
Originally Posted By fabdisbabe sorry. doubled (even tripled) all of the mansion merchandise bought. The Saturday event pin will fetch $100, minimum on Ebay. Lets be honest: most persons buy products from these events (or, attend these events) to attain the high valued collectibles attached to it. To me, I get to see a cool event and eat steak omlettes basically for free, after selling the pin. >> I hope not. I wish those trying to make a quick buck would go out and get a job instead of taking the place of a true fan who'd really love to do something like that for the learning experience. People wonder why Disney doesn't get their experiences/history parts of these events better. The reason is, they know that greedy carpetbaggers who are only in it for the ebay bucks are buying up the tickets, while the fans sit out in the cold and have to buy the keepsakes of a memorable event, if they want them, as cool collectible things because they are fans, at inflated prices because greedo got through the phone line before the fan did. Fab
Originally Posted By americaonparade "The reason is, they know that greedy carpetbaggers who are only in it for the ebay bucks are buying up the tickets, while the fans sit out in the cold and have to buy the keepsakes of a memorable event, if they want them, as cool collectible things because they are fans, at inflated prices because greedo got through the phone line before the fan did." Hmmmm....greedy carpetbaggers...sounds a bit personal. Babe, have you ever bought a house, then sold it for more than you bought it for? Or, do you think its wrong for yourself or someone to sell a Mickey Mouse plush/Plate that they bought in the 70's for 10 times it's value now? There is absolutely, POSIVLEY nothing wrong with this. I am confident that 99% of the persons attending these events are Disney Fans who are not only enjoying the event (like I) but are also going to get the tought to get merchandise to collect for the future and resell at a profit. If, for instance, the Disneyland Mansion Event did not have a merchandise attachmrent to it, there is NO way it would come close to selling out at $80 per head! Are all the persons who attend the Disneyana Concention selling, trading goods, who buy tickets that "fans" could have bought on a sold out day, are they carpetbaggers? You oughta look at what you said, as you may have offended MILLIONS of Disney Collectors out there, persons who mostly DO have normal job, though like to make suplemental income by buying and re-selling collectibles for profit. These events (Ryman/Mansion) are a great combination of a FUN event and merchandise collecting.
Originally Posted By figgy999 I think we should be happy to support the Ryman-Carrol Foundation and if you wanted to be truely noble, would take the procceds from the sale of the pin and donate it to the foundation so that it may have a positive influence on our world
Originally Posted By Kerrie americaonparade, I sort of see where Fab is coming from... I've often wished that ebay would just quietly disappear like dust in the wind. I think ebay is different from the Disneyana conventions, just because it seems like (to me) ebay breeds greed -- what about those horror stories of someone buying a huge load of pins, then reselling them on ebay at an inflated price... meanwhile folks like me can't complete my collection unless I pay that inflated price, because I couldn't get to the Disney store before the ebay seller? (Just my own personal example.) I wouldn't have half the older Disneyland plates, books, buttons, etc. if I'd paid for a person's supplemental income. The most I've ever paid for a Disneyana item was $10 (an old reflector button that says "I like Disneyland"/has Mickey's smiling face). And I think I've got some pretty cool pieces. I don't want to offend ebay sellers, but there seems to be a few bad apples out there that *aren't* Disney fans, who are only in it to make a buck, and those are the folks who have spoiled it for me.
Originally Posted By americaonparade Let's forget about Ebay for a moment: how about ALL of the collectors, fans who stand in LONG lines at Disneyland, waiting to buy a pin or new collectible, well before the park opens. I guarentee you that most of these persons are buying becasue of the collectors value for these products, knowing it will be valuble later on. Kerrie, I will pose the same question I gave to Fab: If you bought a house, would you not want it to increase in value? What if several persons were competing for the same house, and you ended up getting it, knowing the price was a great deal, knowing the value would increase later? Yes, the persons you competed with many have been "fans" of the house, wanting to live there more than trying to make money with it. Nut, if you can get the best of both worlds, own the house (or, get a lucky Ryman ticket/Ryman Pin), live in the house (goto the Ryman event), then, sell the house later at a good profit (or, sell the Ryman pin later for a profit), I ask, what is wrong with this? It is human nature. Everyone in the world, if the can profit from something they own, will do it 99% of the time. And why not? Disney, as a corperation is doing it to you, which is fine? Are they greedy carpetbaggers? They sell the Ryman Event, make $10,000, give a proceed of the profits (the key word is PROCEED, which can be as little as 1%), make pins for $1, then sell the event and profit from it. Disney makes BIG BUCKS from the Ryman and, especially the merchandise events. They are doing the reverse of what collectors do to them, which is 100% fine! Trade/profit is what has made America, Japan, China, etc, great countries! GOD BLESS AMERICA!
Originally Posted By fabdisbabe If I bought a house, it would be to live in. If I bought a pin, it would be because I loved the pin. The 80s are over. Greed isn't good, and it isn't good Karma. Knocking a fan who loves something out of the way just to make a quick and dirty buck is wrong, and breeds bad karma. Fab
Originally Posted By Ursula Do we know for a fact that Disneyland makes money off of the foundation? I agree wholeheartedly with Fab.
Originally Posted By Mrs Nurmi <<They sell the Ryman Event, make $10,000, give a proceed of the profits (the key word is PROCEED, which can be as little as 1%),>> Actually, the term "proceeds" refers to the entire amount of money collected, net of any expenses put forth to hold the event. In Canada, if you claim that the proceeds from an event are going to charity, then that legally means that you keep no profit at all. If a company claims that a percentage of the proceeds will be going to charity, then the line is a bit fuzzy. One could assume that the percentage is small. I would bet that the intention is for this to be a fundraising event for the Ryman Carroll foundation, and that the "proceeds" are going entirely to the foundation.
