Saddam Hussein Execution

Originally Posted By gadzuux

>> Yes, Secretary Rumsfeld met with Saddam. That doesn't mean in any way that the Reagan Administration condoned or sanctioned gas attacks <<

It meant that our government was "getting into bed" with a known tyrant and murderer. Why? Because wanted to use him in our efforts to suppress iran, and weren't too picky about who we aligned with.

Later, when it was convenient for their own political purposes, the GOP cried foul about saddam over issues that happened before they decided to support him. And he was tried on murders that occured before we aligned with him.

This is self serving moral relativism, plain and simple.

 

Originally Posted By cmpaley

>>Please tell me you didn't post that picture as evidence to prove purgatory exists.<<

No, I posted it to show you what Catholics believe purgatory IS. Until one gets there one cannot KNOW for certain that heaven or hell exist...we accept these things by faith. Of course, by then, it's too late to make any choices regarding the matter and since without faith it is impossible to please God...

Since I am a Christian, my authority has been the Bible. The Bible speaks in roundabout terms of a third state that is neither heaven or hell...a place where we suffer loss but are saved but as through fire. As a Catholic, I also accept the teaching authority of the Church and Apostolic Tradition. Both of those sources speak of purgatory where souls are purged throug fire in preparation for eternal happiness in heaven.

 

Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder

Naw, HERE'S proof for ya.

<a href="http://www.myextralife.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/08/hoff1.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.myextralife.com/wp-
content/uploads/2006/08/hoff1.jpg</a>

 

Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder

And cm, that girl seems strangely serene.

 

Originally Posted By cmpaley



Too bad there aren't smilies on this board.

 

Originally Posted By cmpaley

>>And cm, that girl seems strangely serene.<<

That's because she knows that she will get out of there. She has the sure hope of heaven. Purgatory is temporal, not eternal.

 

Originally Posted By jonvn

Again, it doesn't matter how much it hurts.

If your afterlife is infinite, and finite amount of time during that period equates to zero.

 

Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder

Well, see, that kinda goes with what we're saying. The flames don't seem to bother her, she's dressed coolly, and she knows she's gettin' out, likely with a nice tan. What's the big deal?

 

Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder

168 for 166.

 

Originally Posted By melekalikimaka

>> Yes, Secretary Rumsfeld met with Saddam. That doesn't mean in any way that the Reagan Administration condoned or sanctioned gas attacks <<

Funny how it's nothing when the US meets with Saddam yet when bin Laden did meets with Saddam, it means that they were working hand in hand against the US together.

 

Originally Posted By DyGDisney

LOL, SPP.

 

Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan

<a href="http://www.hell2u.com" target="_blank">http://www.hell2u.com</a>

 

Originally Posted By Mr X

>>>Imperfect contrition is being sorry for sins for any other reason, including the fear of hell and is sufficient to receive the grace of forgiveness and the renewal of justification in sacramental confession.<<<

AWSOME. My deathbed confession plan is getting easier all the time!

I don't even have to be sorry cause the things I did were BAD, I just have to be "sorry" because hell is scary.

I love it. 1 ticket to heaven please.

 

Originally Posted By DouglasDubh

<We aided Saddam in his war against Iran.>

We sold him weapons, and we sold Iran weapons. Our "aid" to Saddam was fairly minor, when compared to others. We "aided" Kim Jong Il during the 1990's. Again, it doesn't mean we sanctioned or condoned any of his actions.

 

Originally Posted By DouglasDubh

<Keen insight based upon factual reality. Thanks for asking.>

It was rhetorical, and my additional questions clearly indicate that I believe it other than what you think.

 

Originally Posted By DouglasDubh

<It meant that our government was "getting into bed" with a known tyrant and murderer.>

No, it doesn't.

 

Originally Posted By DouglasDubh

<Funny how it's nothing when the US meets with Saddam yet when bin Laden did meets with Saddam, it means that they were working hand in hand against the US together.>

Saddam and bin Laden never met.

 

Originally Posted By gadzuux

We provided more than weapons to saddam. We also provided valuable intelligence - both satellite and 'human' - and military advisors to aid him in his war with iran. At that time our interests ran parallel with his.

And we were willing to overlook his "transgressions" and abuses of his own people at that time. So it's more than a bit disingenuous for us to then condemn him for the same offenses - twenty years later. We didn't seem to mind before, but now we do.

How convenient.

 

Originally Posted By gadzuux

>> No, it doesn't. <<

Of course it does. Just because you don't like to admit it doesn't make it any less true.

 

Originally Posted By Mr X

K2M, you've just added a new stop on my "list of places to see".