Same old problems at WDW..

Originally Posted By vbdad55

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While I agree the odds of stopping a would be terrorist are slim and none with this approach, it it serves as a reminder to everyone entering the park to be at least a little vigilant and if a suspicious situation arises be aware, maybe that alone is worth it......hard to say, but I don't care about the slight delay...really.

 

Originally Posted By LuvDatDisney

I'd normally come up with a long-winded retort about the idiocy of the bag checks and security in general, but since '74 has returned and I am very tired (working LONG days), I will wait and see ...

 

Originally Posted By crazyformickey

2 years ago I was waiting in security line at MK and a guy in front of me was getting his bag checked but on clipped on his belt was a swiss army knife. He walked right by because it wasn't in his bad. Great security don't you think?

 

Originally Posted By crazyformickey

<<He walked right by because it wasn't in his bad. Great security don't you think?>>

"wasn't in his BAG"

 

Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom

Two years ago while on vacation in NJ and NY I spent a day at Fix Flags Over NJ and you had to go through metal detectors. I thought I was going into some seedy area. The crowd looked dangerous. I would have thought I was as a Marilyn Mason concert. If there were no metal detectors present I have no idea what might be going through those gates.

I don't have an issue if Disney put in metal detectors. As long as they disguised them well. I agree that Security at WDW is a joke and for PR purposes only. Some of these "police" don't even look like they are in any condition to chase down a run away stroller let alone a pick pocket or purse snacher.

 

Originally Posted By trailsend

I'm one who doesn't mind the bag check. I don't mind being checked anywhere. WDW's might not be very professional, but it is still needed. We really cannot afford to ease up anywhere.

 

Originally Posted By TDLFAN

Ease up?? Excuse me but the Bush administration has let go hundreds of TSA workers in ariports across America, have brought up the possibiblity to allow private companies to take over security as was before 9-11, and has allowed travelers to get back on planes with scissors and matches.. whiah can now be turned agains crew on aboard.

As for Disney, the sucurity checks are a waste of time as they are right now. Do it well or don't do it at all. Plus the notion that "they are needed" at Disney is a conditioned state of mind and the fear that we have been fed by this administration.

 

Originally Posted By danyoung

>...but since '74 has returned...I will wait and see ...<

Wait a sec - '74 is back? 1974? DOUBLE YOU DEE DOUBLE YOU NINETEEN SEVENTY FOUR IS BACK??? I'm overjoyed - bout time!!!!

 

Originally Posted By Spirit of 74

Yes, Daniel Young. Indeed, the Spirit has returned for a few days of visiting.

Now don't go getting all weepy with me or I'll have to start correcting all your mis-statements. Wait? I don't think I ever stopped.

I'm always glad to see you too, Danny!

 

Originally Posted By Spirit of 74

<<I'd normally come up with a long-winded retort about the idiocy of the bag checks and security in general, but since '74 has returned and I am very tired (working LONG days), I will wait and see ...>>

Nope.

This isn't worth it. Sure it's PR security that only reminds people with brains (lik myself) how unsafe we always are with crazy people in the world.

But if it makes some feeble-minded souls feel safer, than I don't have a problem with it. Well, I do ... but they are here to stay, so why waste the energy?

 

Originally Posted By demderedoseguys

^^^ The bag checks are absolutely a waste of time. As TDLFAN states, until there are x-ray machines and metal detectors, it's not secure at all. God forbid if someone with evil intent decides to attach a device to the bottom of a stroller or in a concealed portion of a backpack where it can't be seen.

 

Originally Posted By danyoung

>Yes, Daniel Young. Indeed, the Spirit has returned for a few days of visiting.<

Spirit of 74. Hmmm. Is that the spirit of the year, or are you just a pale shadow of your former self? Wait, what am I saying? Of course you're a pale shadow, and getting paler with each passing year that brings you yet further from 1974. Nice to have you back here, buddy!

 

Originally Posted By SuperDry

<<< As for Disney, the sucurity checks are a waste of time as they are right now. Do it well or don't do it at all. Plus the notion that "they are needed" at Disney is a conditioned state of mind and the fear that we have been fed by this administration. >>>

How can you say that? THINK OF THE CHILDREN!

 

Originally Posted By Mr X

lol.

 

Originally Posted By Spirit of 74

<<Spirit of 74. Hmmm. Is that the spirit of the year, or are you just a pale shadow of your former self? Wait, what am I saying? Of course you're a pale shadow, and getting paler with each passing year that brings you yet further from 1974. Nice to have you back here, buddy!>>

I always thought you had more of a cadaverous pallor myself.

The Spirit doesn't feel 1974 was particularly important except for it being the first time he beheld the wonders of Walt Disney World ... back when the magic was so real ... so tangible you felt you could devour it like a hot fudge sundae ...mmmmmmm

 

Originally Posted By ssWEDguy

The current state of bag checks at WDW is not intended to keep out all metal objects, like they try to do on planes.

The intent is to keep someone from bringing in a whole backpack full of nasty stuff, unobserved at all.

Regardless of what the movies would have you believe, to do real damage to something you need a fair volume of material to do it with. Not just what you can sneak in down a pants leg, or inside a drink cup.

Large volumes being required is also the reason why there are the present-everywhere steel gateway posts. They are intended to keep someone from simply driving a load of bad news right into a park.

 

Originally Posted By ssWEDguy

>> They are intended to keep someone from simply driving a load of bad news right into a park. <<

You think WDW has security challenges? Think about DLR. They are completely surrounded by public roadways. The backside of many attractions and backstage entrances are within yards of public roads.

DLR has addressed this in many ways. Most of them are quite discrete, but present nonetheless.

The front-gate baggage check is just the most visible component that guests see.

 

Originally Posted By SuperDry

<<< Think about DLR. They are completely surrounded by public roadways. The backside of many attractions and backstage entrances are within yards of public roads.

DLR has addressed this in many ways. Most of them are quite discrete, but present nonetheless >>>

Yes, there are bollards and reinforced fencing around the entire ring of the resort. There's no way you could just crash a car or truck through a barrier and get into the park, backstage, or the esplanade. They've definately though this through and did some remodeling. In typical Disney fashion, they make most of it very discreet looking so it doesn't look like you're in a war zone, but the protections are there.

 

Originally Posted By trailsend

Well, TDLFAN, I guess if I went into the parks as often as you do, and got checked as often as I'm guessing you do, I can see where your comments are coming from.

I'm just saying, for a once-in-a-while visitor, these checks probably make them feel better. If no checks were being made, I just bet Guest Relations would be asked over and over, why there are no security checks. I can hear people saying, "This is dangerous, no one checked anything and anyone can bring anything in here!" (<--in very loud complaining voices)

My point is, WDW has to do it. They have to do something. And, personally, I feel most people do not mind. I might be wrong. Also, I completely understand where you are coming from and I agree about the situation at the airports.

While some are cruising through with scissors and other possible hidden dangers, I was stripsearched, STRIP-searched at Reagan National in DC last year. I mean, me. My husband and 26 yr old daughter sat and waited while I was taken into this room and stripped! Oh yeah. Now, if you knew me, you would laugh as my family did. I am probably the last person in the world you would pick out to be strip searched. I had very mixed emotions about it. And I didn't like the attitude once I was taken in that room. I was trying to be friendly, but they would not let me speak and would not let me touch anything. Interesting eye-opener for me. While I am in complete agreement to search anything and anyone, I never expected it to be me!!!! LOL

Anyway, I understand your feelings especially being in the airline industry.

 

Originally Posted By trailsend

^^^^sorry, should say "airline profession"