Originally Posted By Mr X ***"Spokker, I suppose then you consider this picture to be a perfectly innocent "let's target the administration for removal next election", right?" Do you propose that the image is mainstream enough to be taken seriously?*** No more or less mainstream than some former governor's facebook page. +shrug+
Originally Posted By Princessjenn5795 Whether that particular image is "mainstream" or not, when these images and threats and actual violence happen again and again they can no longer be viewed as isolated incidents. The far right has taken to a message of fear and violence and it needs to be stopped now before someone gets hurt.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>it needs to be stopped now before someone gets hurt<< Unfortunately, the right has no interest in stopping it. They're fanning the flames because that's easier to do than come up with, you know, ideas and things. This is bullying behavior, plain and simple. A good chunk of the people who are so enraged and angry can't articulate exactly what it is they are so angry about. They say they're for smaller government, less spending. Yet, they weren't angry and drawing targets on things when George Bush and the Republican run congress were spending like crazy, creating massive things like the Department of Homeland Security and launching costly wars. So, to me, that makes it pretty clear what they're so angry about: They lost. Unable to win with ideas, they resort to threats and intimidation tactics knowing full well that it's going to end in violence. And then they'll talk about how they didn't mean these things "literally" of course, no, no, it was just a metaphor, you see, and the individual who did this terrible, terrible thing doesn't represent us or our ideas. And they'll say it all with a straight face.
Originally Posted By Mr X ***They're fanning the flames because that's easier to do than come up with, you know, ideas and things.*** Fanning the flames, you say? <a href="http://www.gop.com" target="_blank">http://www.gop.com</a>
Originally Posted By Mr X NOTE...I typed that whole address in myself...the "fire pelosi" part comes up automatically. It is, indeed, their home page.
Originally Posted By Mr X ***So, to me, that makes it pretty clear what they're so angry about: They lost.*** K2M, I'm sorry but I have to disagree. I think it's far more insidious than that. They lost TO A BLACK GUY is the thing that's firing up all the flames, and all the crap the claim is "the reason" is nothing but (hardly veiled) cover.
Originally Posted By Mr X Throw in some sexism too. That's all they have...what else are they offering? Seriously!?
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>They lost TO A BLACK GUY is the thing that's firing up all the flames, and all the crap the claim is "the reason" is nothing but (hardly veiled) cover.<< There are racists among them, and racists leading the charge on the radio, no doubt. Just this weekend you had black members of congress called the n-word by teabaggers. And of course we've seen the witch doctor images of Obama as well.
Originally Posted By Mr X And again (nothing to do with K2M's comment), I'm speaking to the sort that would imply that President Obama is doing things that Hitler would do. Not all of his detractors (I want to make sure that caveat is loud and clear). But for those who would believe such ridiculous things, all evidence aside...all I can conjure up is pure racism.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "They lost TO A BLACK GUY is the thing that's firing up all the flames, and all the crap the claim is "the reason" is nothing but (hardly veiled) cover." I'm stumped at the number of far right conservative activists who are black. The guy who posted Rep. Tom Perriello's address was a black tea bagger. What's up with that?
Originally Posted By fkurucz >>None of these clowns ever think about the consequences of their actions. All they care about is how popular and profitable they are, right here and right now. Nothing else matters.<< Isn't that the new American "I got mine, to hell with you" Way?
