Originally Posted By RoadTrip All they would accomplish by introducing a significant Star Wars land in Disneyland is to make a marginal guest experience even worse.
Originally Posted By Disneylandfan85 >>I'm simply opining that as a business Disney would be pretty stupid to not leverage their $4 billion purchase Lucasfilm with a big SW investment at its flagship theme park resort. I think most people would agree.<< True, but aside from a few so-called "insiders", no one seems to know where at the Disneyland Resort it is going to go. The Innoventions spot (combined with other property nearby) seems the most logical spot for Star Wars, as most of us agree.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "I think they would be stupid to not put it where it is most needed. Which is DHS." No one can dispute that. From a business standpoint though WDW and DLR are both legitimate locations for major SW expansions. I don't see it as a competition between the two resorts for SW, and I assume that both sites will get big SW additions sooner rather than later. "All they would accomplish by introducing a significant Star Wars land in Disneyland is to make a marginal guest experience even worse." That's never stopped them before.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros >>Yes, real cars. Driving in a parade. Not just any cars. I envision some vetting process; someone wanting to be in the parade would have to apply for a spot, and Disney would only choose the best<< Interesting idea. It would definitely fit with the California car culture, though they don't seem to keep as strictly to the California theme as they did in the past. DLR already has a relationship with local car clubs who show up in support of the runDisney events (where they are on both sides of the course for over a mile), so I'm sure they could use their contacts there to get something started: <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.laughingplace.com/w/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/09_Half-Cars.jpg">http://www.laughingplace.com/w...Cars.jpg</a> That said, I'm not sure Disney would want the liability of all those people driving through the park. What if something were to go wrong, and one of them drove into a crowd of guests? More likely, we'd see something like the old Stars and Motor Cars "parade" (cavalcade, really) from WDW that's since been moved to DLP: <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://wdwent.com/st/photos/aladdin.jpg">http://wdwent.com/st/photos/aladdin.jpg</a>
Originally Posted By oc_dean >>The Innoventions spot (combined with other property nearby) seems the most logical spot for Star Wars, as most of us agree.<< Just because some of us think it's "the most logical solution" doesn't mean that's what they intend to do. I know there's some serious diehard Star Wars fans among the LP community here (I'm one of them myself) ... but I just have to remind everyone ... We've been through Star Wars rumors already. You know the one. The one Miceage INSISTED was happening well over a year ago, that Innoventions, Subs, Autopia would go to some Speeder Bike ride through an Endor forest, with an Ewok village. Millinium Falcon perched in the center where the Observatron currently sits, Tie and X-Wing fighter Astro Orbitor on top of the Magic Eye Theater's roof. (Never mind the fact it would have ruined a clear shot of Space Mountain, and messing up it's force perspective as a "larger than life" structure.) Nothing became of that rumor. And quietly went away. Miceage even, later, admitted it was off the table (or they just knew it was never a consideration, and trying to save face!) Then Iger later said he has bigger ideas where that franchise is concerned. So, okay .... lets admit something - It's 'Wishful Thinking' some want Tomorrowland to become one hell of a large Star Wars land. There's no confirmation of it. Not even a semi one. Or even a hint. But hey ... Disney is one big Franchise Machine now, more than ever. I look at those construction walls surrounding Innoventions, and maybe the Star Wars fans will have their day. AND MAYBE NOT. We are now 3 years away from the last major project - Carsland/Buena Vista Street. It can't much longer that Disney finally makes an announcement for DLR's next big project. My only hunch, Innoventions will get something minor, and re-open .. while TL gets put off (still!) for another time, and some other location of the DLR gets the next big ticket item. <-- getting curiouser and curiouser.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros After a couple years without much going on, it seems like there might finally be some big announcements for the parks at D23 this year. It's obvious that they're doing *something* in WDW that hasn't been announced, and they could always give some actual details on Avatar, plus whatever this is in DL. I expect it will be a very interesting time!
Originally Posted By RoadTrip A public cars parade in DL will never happen. What if some wacked out guy with a really nice car decided to be in the DL parade and take out hundreds of bystanders crowded along the street? Crazy, but unfortunately in today's world that has to be considered a possibility. Oh... "Goodnight Innoventions". I figured after 166 posts someone should follow instructions.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros >>Oh... "Goodnight Innoventions". I figured after 166 posts someone should follow instructions.<< I think that to myself every time I see the thread title : )
Originally Posted By Disneylandfan85 >>We've been through Star Wars rumors already. You know the one. The one Miceage INSISTED was happening well over a year ago, that Innoventions, Subs, Autopia would go to some Speeder Bike ride through an Endor forest, with an Ewok village. Millinium Falcon perched in the center where the Observatron currently sits, Tie and X-Wing fighter Astro Orbitor on top of the Magic Eye Theater's roof. [...] Nothing became of that rumor. And quietly went away. Miceage even, later, admitted it was off the table (or they just knew it was never a consideration, and trying to save face!) Then Iger later said he has bigger ideas where that franchise is concerned. [...] There's no confirmation of it. Not even a semi one. Or even a hint. [...] We are now 3 years away from the last major project - Carsland/Buena Vista Street. It can't much longer that Disney finally makes an announcement for DLR's next big project. My only hunch, Innoventions will get something minor, and re-open .. while TL gets put off (still!) for another time, and some other location of the DLR gets the next big ticket item.<< You mean like Toontown and the Big Thunder Ranch? That's where MiceAge is INSISTING that a Star Wars land will go now at the Disneyland Resort - even though you yourself said that there is no hint of this happening, much less a confirmation. That probably won't happen until D23 this August, as everyone claims. In any case, and I know I've said this many times before, but I hope that Toontown does not go away for Star Wars, for many reasons that I won't elaborate on right now, because I know we've said them many times before.
Originally Posted By Disneylandfan85 Oh, and you also said that Iger had bigger ideas for the Star Wars franchise, but I would think that Toontown is too small, even with the Ranch area and some backstage stuff thrown in.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros >>That's where MiceAge is INSISTING that a Star Wars land will go now at the Disneyland Resort...<< MiceAge also insisted that Star Wars was going to take over the Submarine Lagoon, Autopia, and Innoventions, just a few months back. At this point, I don't think we'll know much of anything until official announcements are made; even if there are Star Wars announcements at D23, I suspect they'll only talk about WDW and not DLR, since the Studios needs so much work right now
Originally Posted By RoadTrip Damn. DLfan 85 really loves them some Toontown. Maybe Disney should give her/him an annual pass in recognition of the obsession.
Originally Posted By CuriousConstance "Marvel kissing booth star, coming to Disneyland! <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://static.comicvine.com/up...r_01.jpg">http://static.comicvine.com/up...r_01.jpg</a>" LOL I'd be willing to hit that up if it means I also get some of my favorites.
Originally Posted By trekkeruss "A public cars parade in DL will never happen. What if some wacked out guy with a really nice car decided to be in the DL parade and take out hundreds of bystanders crowded along the street? Crazy, but unfortunately in today's world that has to be considered a possibility." A car guy would _never_ plow his car into a crowd. Why? Because his car means too much to him. Unfortunately, as you say, stuff like crazy wackos have to be considered and sadly, a car parade would not happen.
Originally Posted By Disneylandfan85 >>At this point, I don't think we'll know much of anything until official announcements are made; even if there are Star Wars announcements at D23, I suspect they'll only talk about WDW and not DLR, since the Studios needs so much work right now<< As I mentioned before, Iger mentioned there being a bigger Star Wars presence at the Disney parks, meaning more than one park. Thus, I take that to mean that there will be other parks involved besides the Studios. As others have pointed out, it would be stupid not to have the Disneyland Resort involved in some way here.
Originally Posted By CuriousConstance Seems like a car parade would be a crowd control nightmare. Major walkways would need to be closed before, during, and a bit after the parade to prepare. How would people get around? Plus, how would Disney benefit from a bunch of people looking at random cars in their park that aren't based on any character or merchandise. Plus people would always be wondering what movie the cars are from
Originally Posted By monorailblue <<As I mentioned before, Iger mentioned there being a bigger Star Wars presence at the Disney parks, meaning more than one park.>> Although likely, Iger's statement doesn't mean anything of the sort. Retheming bathrooms to a Star Wars theme and adding Star Wars items to a restaurant menu would easily qualify for a "bigger . . . presence" the way things are done at Disneyland these days. And 3 years from the last "major" project? Try getting Burbank to admit that a new WofC show and a copied parade are anything less than SUPER-DUPER MAJOR PROJECTS.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros >>Seems like a car parade would be a crowd control nightmare. Major walkways would need to be closed before, during, and a bit after the parade to prepare. How would people get around?<< I imagine they would do it around the same general time that the regular parade runs, and use the same crowd control CMs for it, similar to when they have a marching band come through ~15 minutes before the main event Also similar to a marching band, it wouldn't have any direct Disney connection, nor would it push merchandise, but it would provide for a fuller day of varied experiences
Originally Posted By trekkeruss "how would Disney benefit from a bunch of people looking at random cars in their park that aren't based on any character or merchandise." Begin and end every parade with the characters from Cars. Or have Disney characters riding in the cars.
Originally Posted By berol Disney's park blog says upgrades are coming to the Matterhorn snowmen and the Peter Pan nursery scene. <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://disneyparks.disney.go.com/blog/2015/04/bringing-new-magic-to-matterhorn-bobsleds-and-peter-pans-flight-at-disneyland-park">http://disneyparks.disney.go.c...and-park</a> The snowmen have eyes that light up, so they'll get a jawa robe slapped on them. A little Yoda figurine will make the Peter Pan kids fly using the force. And there's your bigger Star Wars presence.