Originally Posted By LOVE-DCA Well Knott’s is very gross and dirty. And they do not keep that park very well maintained (reason for loving Disneyland and DCA-very well kept at least I think),but im not sorry to see golden dreams go, or the orange stinger, because in it’s place will be something bigger and better!! And Knott’s berry farm can go suck it!
Originally Posted By LOVE-DCA Knott’s may have a ride like the orange stinger—but nothing compares to Disneyland rides. And some people may think Knott’s is better then Disneyland but Knott’s is also much more dirty then Disneyland. The last time I was at Knott’s the pain was pealing off all things, and the carousel horses--well the horse tails were like real horse tails that they had attached to the hole in the back of the carousel horse! One side was nice and smooth (real horse hair), the back side was like leather. it was gross!! ..and big deal that they have “Knott’s scary farm”….Disneyland had the first ever space mountain ghost galaxy! And if anyone had the chance to ride it knows that it was REALLY scary!!
Originally Posted By oc_dean Well Knott's is suppose to be dirty ... It's "Ghost Town" sections are suppose to depict the dusty, dirty era these types of towns were like in the mid 1800s. Not to say Cedar Fair does not take of the park's attractions that are not depicting the old west. Walter Knott must be spinning in his grave.
Originally Posted By oc_dean edit - Not to say Cedar Fair does not take __CARE___ of the park's attractions that are not depicting the old west.
Originally Posted By Ohana knotts has really changed in recent years. they are not trying to get the family dollars, they have given up that lane to disney. Now they try to be Magic Mountain South. When they opened Camp Snoopy it was cute and a direct competition to Disneys new Fantasyland built around the same time. Now Knotts has built coasters roaring right over the top of quaint Camp Snoopy. They have totally gone downhill in quality even if you arent concerned that they gave up on attracting whole families.
Originally Posted By oc_dean When Walter Knott and Walt Disney were alive .. they were best of friends .. and recognized each other's parks as unique to their own following, and complimented each other.
Originally Posted By oc_dean >>They have totally gone downhill in quality even if you arent concerned that they gave up on attracting whole families.<< That blame can go on Cedar Fair. The Knott family no longer has decision making power of the park, any more.
Originally Posted By 2001DLFan <<Hans Reinhardt: I believe that was much of the point behind PP, that is, to compete with Knott's in terms of keeping tourists away from the nearby competition.>> But, if Knott's rides are essentially identical (swings-AKA Waveswinger) if not better (Ghost Rider, Supreme Scream, Wheeler Dealer Bumper Cars), PP doesn't really do that very well. Of course, DCA overall is generally better, but that also depends on what kind of rides people prefer.
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt "But, if Knott's rides are essentially identical (swings-AKA Waveswinger) if not better (Ghost Rider, Supreme Scream, Wheeler Dealer Bumper Cars), PP doesn't really do that very well. Of course, DCA overall is generally better, but that also depends on what kind of rides people prefer." Most people don't care and many people traveling to Orange County already have a local theme park in their region that has the kind atmophere found at Magic Mountain and Knott's. Here in the Bay Area we have both a Cedar Fair park and as Six Flags park. If you are a tourist with kids in tow it's a much simpler proposition to just walk the family across Harbor Blvd. to both DCA and DL on a multi-day parkhopper than to do Knott's and Disneyland the way people used to do in the old days. Also, with all there is to see and do in Southern California there's really little incentive for a family to visit Knott's while on vacation in the region. I predict that Once the Disney Cruise Line comes to the West Coast Disney will further cannibalize the Orange County theme park market for tourist families.
