Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "When i said it angered me, it's because its such a lose theme that nobody knows what the heck the roller coaster is for...yes its a roller coaster at a theme park, but disney is supposed to put stories or purposes behind their attractions...screamin is just...there..." I hear you, however I don't think it's true that EVERY attraction has to have a story. I mean what's the story of the Matterhorn Bobsleds? It's really no more than the name implies - a bobsled trip down/through the Matterhorn. Likewise California Screamin is supposed to be a classic wooden coaster at a seaside amusement pier. It quite simple, obvious actually, what the ride is supposed to be. Therefore, I don't think Screamin is really an attraction that needs to be saddled with some elaborate back story for it to be fun or entertaining.
Originally Posted By lesmisfan "I saw those the other day, and they look pretty good. Definitely an improvement over the old ones. Do you know when the rest of the PP attractions will get new costumes? I would assume it will be some time between now and the Mermaid opening next summer/spring." the rest of the attractios on the pier minus the "route 66" area just started wearing the costume worn my the toy story midway mania CMs.
Originally Posted By Sparrow I think the Matterhorn is there because most of the orginal Fantasyland movie-based rides took place in that part of Europe and Fantasyland is styled to look like a little Swiss Village. No? I could be wrong. This isn't fact, just speculation. I also agree that not all rides need a theme. I think Screamin' is just supposed to be a throwback to the old wooden coasters that used to be on the boardwalks at the beach. Like the one that used to be at the Pike in Long Beach.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "I think the Matterhorn is there because most of the orginal Fantasyland movie-based rides took place in that part of Europe and Fantasyland is styled to look like a little Swiss Village." The inspiration came from a film called Third Man on The Mountain. Walt Disney visited Switzerland when the movie was being made and decided that he wanted his own version built in Disneyland. Fantasyland didn't get its European village look until 1983. "I think Screamin' is just supposed to be a throwback to the old wooden coasters that used to be on the boardwalks at the beach. Like the one that used to be at the Pike in Long Beach." Exactly. Within that context it's fine to me, however the queue is pretty lame for such a major attraction.
Originally Posted By jirishgirl Thanks for the update on the costumes. That is cool. Look forward to seeing them next summer.
Originally Posted By CuriouserConstance I've never been on Screamin, so I don't know what the que is like. What's wrong with it?
Originally Posted By xrayvision I like the surfer themed motif, 1930's or Victorian style with retro surf board, sandy mobiles with tall grass, surfer statues, retro lifeguard station and paintings. But, it needs to look different from Knott's painful Windjammer coaster (RIP).
Originally Posted By avatarmickey115 I didn't mean to say it needs a storyline...i just meant that disney usually has rides with really nice theming. Screamin' doesnt have to have a whole story behind it, but just a stronger theme with more scenery... @Constance -- The queue is just a giant zigzag line that gradually slopes up to the station and then you walk up a flight of stairs and cross over the station and back down...like Indiana Jones. There is absolutely nothing going on in that queue...just concrete and railing. There are pyramid-like umbrella things that shade you from the sun, but thats about the most colorful thing in the queue...the station is nice, but they can do better. The architecture of the building compared to TSMM's station building is pretty pathetic. thats what id like for the screamin station.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt The queue is very basic. Very much like the Matterhorn at Disneyland, but with even less charm.
Originally Posted By avatarmickey115 Yes, but where would they fit a queue building??? What you said about Matterhorn how it doesn't have a story, I wasn't saying that every attraction has to have a story, but nice theming. Look at that mountain! It's a very nice theme. Everybody knows you are supposed to be bobsledding because it's in the name! California Screamin' on the other hand, nobody really knew you were supposed to be surfing. All I'm trying to say is that they can make it look just a little better to make it tie in with the new Victornian themed pier. The queue is just so boring for a big attraction. But the key fact is that they have the room to do it! Matterhorn on the other hand doesn't.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "Yes, but where would they fit a queue building???" I don't really think that the queue needs to be fully enclosed in a building of any significance. Maybe it could be a tour through an abandoned surf board shop or repair facility. I don't know, but I see no need for an incredibly elaborate to be engaging or entertaining.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt Let me restate that: I see no need for an incredibly elaborate queue for this particular ride in order for it to be engaging or entertaining.
Originally Posted By xrayvision I could be as engaging as the redone Jungle Cruise queue, with a weathered 30's surf theme.
Originally Posted By Sparrow <<<Fantasyland didn't get its European village look until 1983.>>> Ahhh. Didn't know that. I was 1 at the time so the current Fantasyland is the only one I'm used to! Thanks for the info, Hans! I also like the idea of the Screamin' queue being a tour of an old surf shack. They could do something similar to Grizzly River Run. It's a standard queue but they made an effort to at least make it look like an outpost for a rafting company.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <<<Fantasyland didn't get its European village look until 1983.>>> <Ahhh. Didn't know that. I was 1 at the time so the current Fantasyland is the only one I'm used to! Thanks for the info, Hans! > If you've been to WDW, DL's FaL prior to 1983 looked much like that. Sort of the medieval "tournament tent" look. It still had a European look (though not nearly as good a look as today), and the Matterhorn always looked good as a backdrop.
Originally Posted By avatarmickey115 I'm sorry, I'm not really explaining my ideas the way I'm picturing them in my head. I didn't really mean to say that I wanted a huge building that totally encloses the queue and has pre-shows and all that. I was just meaning something exactly like you guys have all said. The Jungle Cruise queue or GRR. That's what i was thinking in my head, I just wasn't detailed enough. I think a jungle cruise-like building where it weaves around corners (and Screamin's would definitely have to use a second story) where little bits of scenery and props are scattered here and there would be perfect for Screamin'! But make it look more like TSMM or just an old surf shack.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt For Sparrow: <a href="http://media.photobucket.com/image/fantasyland/bananaphone5000/NEWGORILLA/1960FantasylandMatterhorn.jpg" target="_blank">http://media.photobucket.com/i...horn.jpg</a>
Originally Posted By believe >>>>>The queue is very basic. Very much like the Matterhorn at Disneyland, but with even less charm.<<<<< Even though Matterhorn is basic, it does have a lot of details that make it themed very well. You can tell that money was spent to make it themed. Screamin, however, it just a sterile and efficient place to hold the queue. It's got stucco walls and a roof.
Originally Posted By avatarmickey115 you can tell that theyve redone the snow-work on the mountain...when did they do that?
