Originally Posted By vbdad55 <I think the enjoyment depends a lot on the experience (as in most things!). The technology was very interesting, but the children picked to ask questions can have a big impact...one was very obnoxious and started yelling at "Crush" and insulting him. She seemed to think she was funny but I was just embarrassed for her parents. It threw the CM for a loop for a minute and he moved on but the second one wasn't much better. < pretty much the same for most experiences now at WDW- a good audience and you enjoy it -- boorish / loud people in Muppets / Philharmagic or even on rides can lessen the experience.
Originally Posted By Chelledun >>>What was planned was pretty cool. A thrill ride was involved, and would have left the basic infrastructure of the aquarium/Seabase Alpha intact (would have enhanced its theme, actually). That we're getting a little omnimover and 300 repetitions of the word "duuuuude" is kind of depressing.>>> I think a lot of folks here would have been VERY upset if we would have gotten another thrill ride at Epcot rather than an omnimover. I personally am thrilled to see something a little milder for this pavillion as I am a big wimp about thrill rides.
Originally Posted By ChiMike This would have not been a M:S type thrill ride. I mean Splash is a thrill ride. Would it have been the best outcome? Probably not, but I think many guests would have enjoyed it more than the improvements that they enjoy now at TDS. I'm all for a non-thrill Future World. I think an exciting Future World could occur without any thrills and I, like everyone else, have my own ideas on what could or could not work. But in reality, a quasi-thrill adventure at TLS would have been able to be justified by Disney like the rumored SSE redo, where as a Horizons or Sea Base Alpha approach probably wouldn't have.
Originally Posted By BlueOhanaTerror >>>This would have not been a M:S type thrill ride. I mean Splash is a thrill ride. Would it have been the best outcome? Probably not, but I think many guests would have enjoyed it more than the improvements that they enjoy now at TDS.<<< Plus, it would have increased the DIVERSITY of attractions within that pavillion... not replaced them summarily, as Test Track did, or replaced a much longer attraction (Horizons) with something so brief and forgettable as Mission:Space. It also was intended to CEMENT the story of Seabase Alpha... not stray from it.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 ^^Duuuuude ... it would have been so knarly ... and awesssssome ... chaaaa ... Turtle Talk and the whole character program WDI is working on (i.e Stitch Encounter, Monsters Laugh Floor, Kim Possible) reminds me of the same bill of goods we were sold with Star Tours and Body Wars simulators ... that they can easily be changed and now that you can 'interact' with the characters, every experience will be different and that makes for repeatability, yada, yada, blah, blah, blather etc ... It's all BS. Because ultimately people go to Disney parks for immersive 3D attractions that transport them to other places and times. Living characters do NOT do this. They're just a hi-tech character meet-and-greet. There's no way you can compare a 10 minute 'show' where your brats can talk with Crush vs. creating an attraction that takes to a futuristic scientific sea base on the bottom of the ocean. This is why Mission Space will prove to be a huge waste of capital where a space pavillion would have been a GREAT addition to Epcot. Much like Body Wars, MS will have a very limited shelf-life.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <There's no way you can compare a 10 minute 'show' where your brats can talk with Crush vs. creating an attraction that takes to a futuristic scientific sea base on the bottom of the ocean. < absolutely agree - but it is a nice addition as opposed to closed buildings and shuttered desolate areas. how nice would a similar show be instead of bare walls exiting SSE ? I would not travel to WDW to see a land fulls of these attractions, but like and appreciate them as lesser ( B- C ticket ) type
Originally Posted By kpwdwfan My kids loved Turtle Talk!! Just about anything is better than the closed, shut down attractions in MGM and EPCOT. I sure hope that WDW doesn't use these type attractions to fill all the voids. Two will be more than enough but it's probably a cheap easy fix to the current problem of empty spaces.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 My problem with things like Turtle Talk isn't with them perse. It's more of the mindset that they are MAJOR additions and are marketed as such. They aren't ... Turtle Talk is the 21st century equivalent of a B-C Ticket at best. Everest is a major addition for WDW and should be spoken of in such terms. Crush isn't ... and reopening the closed sea cabs with a Nemo overlay isn't either. Our options should NOT be either a cheap fix or nothing. That's the mindset that leads to everything from the McPooPoo Playground to Stitch's Belch Fest (smells included) to Journey Into WDI's Lack of Imagination versions 2.0 and 3.0. And even speaking from the financial, cold numbers, side they don't help the bottom line and are often a drag on it.
Originally Posted By Skellington88 Spirit of 74 is right on the money and people like him should be running american businesses.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<Spirit of 74 is right on the money and people like him should be running american businesses. >> Oh, you make me blush ... but you're right. I know by the way my Disney 'pals' keep tabs on me, that they know it too. And that makes me feel warm and tingling all over!
Originally Posted By FerretAfros Does anyone know when the new ride is supposed to open? Of course it will probably be pushed back from whenever they say it will be, but I don't think I've even heard a month that it is scheduled for.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<Come're .. let me giveya a big kiss for speaking so brilliantly. >> I am at a loss for words ... and that happens very infrequently. <<Does anyone know when the new ride is supposed to open? Of course it will probably be pushed back from whenever they say it will be, but I don't think I've even heard a month that it is scheduled for.>> It will have guests on it in September. Take it to the bank.
