Originally Posted By Mr X So you claim. All I know is the eye-witness photographer took some snapshots which I will provide to the community shortly (NC-17 stuff folks, not for the kiddies!)...in which he described you guys as "frolicking", and said something about "that myth is totally untrue" (whatever THAT means).
Originally Posted By Mr X **No way this guy pleads guilty unless the cop had the goods on him.** Here's something that just occured to me. If there is a cop, sitting in a crapper (sounds like a fun assignment, huh?), waiting for some pervert to hit on him...isn't that some form of entrapment? From what I read, it seems that this guy (and I've no doubt he's gay, and probably a very sad individual if he's anti-gay in "real life"), didn't actually DO anything criminal except for what the cop assumed was "bad". I read he tapped his foot and moved his hand or something, right? (which he denies, but anyway...) What, exactly, is criminal about THAT? (this brings out the libertarian in me...cops have WAY too much discretion on what they THINK is "bad"...that's what I'm saying I guess) But I hate cops anyway, so I'm probably biased. The guy probably came on to the cop directly but the cop was too kind to mention that in the report, right?
Originally Posted By DAR I haven't been paying attention too much to this story(sorry we have bigger things to worry about in this country). But he's taking a plea deal even though he says he did nothing wrong? Where I come from if you did nothing wrong then you don't need to make any bargins.
Originally Posted By Mr X Yes...it seems likely that he's just lying to cover up his actions. Why would anyone who did nothing illegal do otherwise? ESPECIALLY a freakin SENATOR, who could probably have the cop busted down to dogcatcher in a second if it was a "false arrest" sort of deal.
Originally Posted By gadzuux His story is that he was stressed from the pressure placed on him by an ongoing investigation into claims of him 'coming on' to men in public. So we're to believe that it's just his dumb luck to be in an infamously 'cruisy' restroom - thousands of miles from his home - so infamous that the police actually have an undercover cop stationed in the stall at the time of his visit - and to have this "misunderstanding" with his peeking through the crack in the stall, his 'wide stance' and his sticking his hands and feet underneath the wall. And then he's arrested, has mug shots taken, is fingerprinted, and appears before a judge, where he pleads guilty. Only NOW, when the story comes to light, does he protest the charge. What a maroon.
Originally Posted By gurgitoy2 "If there is a cop, sitting in a crapper (sounds like a fun assignment, huh?), waiting for some pervert to hit on him...isn't that some form of entrapment?" Yes, it is...well at least in California. I had a friend who this happened to. Basically a cop was in a park restroom where my friend was jogging and the cop was at a urinal and my friend was using one a few feet down. Well, the guy looks at my friend, and they exchange looks, maybe a little too long, because my friend said the cop was attractive. Well, that was all that happened, but the cop's partner was waiting outside the door and handcuffed my friend and hauled him off to jail. Anyway, to make a long story short, when it was taken to court, the cop had done so many of these busts that he couldn't remember specific details, and was jus there busting people all the time. The case was dismissed because the judge said that it was entrapment. Still, unlike this dumb guy, my friend knew he didn't do anything and fought it. Why Craig plead guilty is beyond me. No matter how "stressed" you might be, I can't imagine accepting something you didn't do. Also, he's a senator for pete's sake, he couldn't get some decent legal advice before pleading guilty? This is all too fishy. Also, the fact that the cop said he gave him his buisiness card says a lot. Why would you NOT think this would somehow get back to you if you tell them who you are? Big, sad, gay dummy!
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<I read he tapped his foot and moved his hand or something, right?>> I heard that Craig tapped out "blow me" in Morse code. ;-)
Originally Posted By Inspector 57 "Democratic Rep. Barney Frank of Massachusetts, an openly homosexual member of the House, said Craig was a hypocrite on gay rights issues but he didn't think the Republican senator should resign." Democratic senators in general are quietly waiting for more evidence and are not seizing an opportunity to demonize the guy or to use one man's failing as a basis to trash the entire Republican party. But Republicans are calling for his head: <a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070829/ap_on_go_co/craig_arrest" target="_blank">http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200 70829/ap_on_go_co/craig_arrest</a>
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<But Republicans are calling for his head:>> The basic difference between Democrats and Republicans. The Democrats want to give head; the Republicans want to take it away.
Originally Posted By gadzuux Craig is like kryptonite to the GOP - they want him gone yesterday. For the same reasons, it's worthwhile to the dems to have him hang around til the end of his term, reminding everybody of this whole sordid story. Unfortunately, the dems don't get much say in the matter, and GOP leadership will be unceremoniously pushing craig into immediate retirement. And still the damage isn't contained. Craig's senate seat was formerly considered "safe" in the `08 election, but now that's out the window and they're going to have to spend heavily to keep it. This is the main reason why they need this story buried by this time next year. But it's still idaho - they'd vote for an axe murderer before they'd vote democratic.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <,they'd vote for an axe murderer before they'd vote democratic. >> Yeah, but would they vote for a GAY axe murderer?? ;-(
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<LOL, by your last few posts RoadTrip, you're really enjoying this .>> Oh, I am!! The thought of having sex in a public restroom is funny. The thought of cops hanging out in a public restroom to catch people having sex is funny. The thought of Republicans having any sex at all is funny. The thought of a conservative bible-thumping Republican Senator getting caught having gay sex in a public restroom is absolutely hilarious!! ;-)
Originally Posted By ecdc >>The thought of Republicans having any sex at all is funny.<< The supposedly talentless Bill Maher said after discussing Republican opposition to pornography, homosexuality, etc., that "Republicans think sex is so bad, because with them it always is." Sorry folks, it's funny. >>Craig is like kryptonite to the GOP - they want him gone yesterday.<< Yup, stick the fork in him - he's done. It's interesting how fast Republicans are lining up to get rid of him for homosexual activity. Would that they'd had such moral outrage for Alberto Gonzalez or Ted Stewart. But we all know boys kissing is much worse than white collar crimes or politicizing the Justice department.
Originally Posted By DAR <<The thought of having sex in a public restroom is funny.>> Yeah like a gross kind of funny. Like a ha ha now I have hepatitis type funny. <<The thought of cops hanging out in a public restroom to catch people having sex is funny.>> I'd really like to see that episode of Cops, that would be great. << The thought of Republicans having any sex at all is funny.>> Um not to give out too much info, but I dated a girl who was hardcore Team Elephant. Well let's just say that we had some "good times" if you know what I mean. <<The thought of a conservative bible-thumping Republican Senator getting caught having gay sex in a public restroom is absolutely hilarious!!>> Now that is funny.
Originally Posted By DAR <<The supposedly talentless Bill Maher >> I never said he was talentless. I just said he's annoying, a jerk and unfunny. He perfects those, that takes tremendous talent.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>I'd really like to see that episode of Cops, that would be great.<< Sounds more like Reno 911.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder "It's interesting how fast Republicans are lining up to get rid of him for homosexual activity." I'd like to think it isn't for the homosexual activity per se, but for the fact he got arrested in a public restroom, copped a plea, and then compounded the problem with this absolutely hideous denial. So far, he accepts no responsibility at all for his actions. And I won't believe him for an instant if he does a 180 here and cries and begs for forgiveness. Larry Craig can go to hell.
Originally Posted By jonvn "The thought of having sex in a public restroom is funny." Kind of gross to me. "The thought of cops hanging out in a public restroom to catch people having sex is funny." Your tax dollars at work. Is there nothing better for those cops to be doing than this sort of thing?
