Originally Posted By melekalikimaka <<Hey I didn't say that I agree completely.>> Yeah, I know. I've found that as soon as someone starts telling me what other people believe I immediately get cranky and stop listening. I wish people were secure enough to talk about their own beliefs instead of talking about what the other people do.
Originally Posted By friendofdd Sadly, there are many sweeping statements about groups of people made here on LP. Stereotypes have a legitimate place in our thinking, but a wise thinker will realize they do not apply to all and, perhaps, not even to a majority of the group. When I am tempted to use them in LP posts, I often reread what I've written and substitute my group(s) mentally. Frequently I realize they make just as much sense, or nonsense, as with the original group. I can't speak for others, but when I read sweeping stereotypical indictments, I tend to think of the poster as just another bigot, or worse, a fool. Their intelligence is empty without, at least, a touch of wisdom. While I am on the soapbox, I will also say that kindness toward each other lends to a greater understanding than does arrogance, sarcasm, etc. While I disagree with many about world events, I hope to someday meet them at DL and have them them think of me as a kind political opponent. Worth taking the time to share a cup of coffee and a chat.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh It would be bad enough if Sen Reid had made a principled statement, and then stood behind it. But as Mr Broder noted, when questioned further, he backed away from it. He claimed that the war was lost (even though it's not), then that the war would be lost if we didn't change plans (although he doesn't present a plan that actually results in victory). The surge is barely beginning, but it's already showing signs of progress.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder Doug, the war was "won" when Saddam was overthrown. Th rest is something that can never be quantified as won or lost. Period, end of discussion.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <Doug, the war was "won" when Saddam was overthrown. Th rest is something that can never be quantified as won or lost. Period, end of discussion.> Then you disagree with Senator Reid?
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <Where did I ever say I agreed with him?> Where did you ever say you disagreed with him?
Originally Posted By melekalikimaka Okay, it's been 40 minutes since you posted that and it's still making me laugh.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder "<Where did I ever say I agreed with him?> Where did you ever say you disagreed with him?" This makes the Spork of Spin Hall of Fame.
Originally Posted By JohnS1 "Interesting I just read Bernard Goldberg's new book and he pretty much said that most liberals view (and realizing the phrase "not all" is included in your statement)Republicans and christians as uneducated dolts." Regradless how one vbiews Goldbergs move over to the right (most members of the liberal news media fraternity have decried him as a traitor for leaving the fold and revealing news media bias) one has to admit he writes some good, thoughtful books that really home right in on the viewpoints of the members of both political parties.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <How can we lovers when we can't be friends?> Jim, thanks for the best world events laugh in AGES. Can't agree about Goldberg. Jon Stewart dissected him when he was a guest on the Daily Show, cannily (but politely) showing Goldberg's own bias by showing that in his book "100 People Who Are Screwing Up America," almost all were liberals and fairly benign even if you found them annoying, and the handful of conservatives were hard-core people like an abortion clinic bomber. And someone like Barbra Streisand ranked higher than him.
Originally Posted By DAR The latest book most of his ire is drawn towards the left but he's really not a fan of Bush.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <Do yourself a favor, just walk away from me here.> Why would that be a favor to me? Sounds to me like you should be the one to walk away.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <Regradless how one vbiews Goldbergs move over to the right (most members of the liberal news media fraternity have decried him as a traitor for leaving the fold and revealing news media bias) one has to admit he writes some good, thoughtful books that really home right in on the viewpoints of the members of both political parties.> I haven't read "Bias", but I read "Arrogance", and wasn't that impressed.
