Originally Posted By dagobert >>>On a related note, does anybody know if SDL has a public website yet?<<< <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://en.shanghaidisneyresort.com.cn/en/">http://en.shanghaidisneyresort...m.cn/en/</a>
Originally Posted By dagobert Shendi, the joint venture company between Disney and its Chenese partners, will open a huge shopping centre near SDL. <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://disneyandmore.blogspot.com/2014/03/shendi-announces-luxury-shopping-center.html">http://disneyandmore.blogspot....ter.html</a>
Originally Posted By FerretAfros Is this different from the Downtown Disney/Disney Village-type development that was already announced? Or just more detailed information for it? I can't really tell from the way its worded
Originally Posted By SuperDry It sounds to me that this is separate from DtD, and will be "nearby" the resort, not in it.
Originally Posted By dagobert >>>It sounds to me that this is separate from DtD, and will be "nearby" the resort, not in it.<<< I would guess so too. The DTD area will be next to the park, while this project will be outside the actual resort. Maybe it will be connected to the park with the boats shown in the concept art.
Originally Posted By dagobert Disney & More has posted some great Google Earth pictures of SDL. <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://disneyandmore.blogspot.com/2014/06/google-earth-release-new-shanghai.html">http://disneyandmore.blogspot....hai.html</a>
Originally Posted By FerretAfros Wow, it sure looks like there's a lot of work going on, and a lot of work yet to be done! Is the Fantasyland boat ride going to be underground, or outdoors? It seems strange that it would have such a large footprint in the middle of the land, but if they're putting something on top of it (like Alice's Labyrinth), I guess it could make sense. Will this park also have iasw? I can't remember seeing anything specifically, but I can't imagine they'd skip it
Originally Posted By dagobert SDL will be a huge park. >>>Is the Fantasyland boat ride going to be underground, or outdoors?<<< I assumed that it will be a combination of boath indoor and outdoor. But I may be wrong. >>>Will this park also have iasw<<< I'm not sure about iasw, because it has been built in HKDL and it seems Disney tries to make SDL different.
Originally Posted By dagobert >>>ORGOCH: Looks ta me like they's behind schedule. <<< I think so too. SDL should open late 2015, so there's a little bit more than a year left.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros I thought that they had announced that the opening will be pushed back to 2016. Or was that just a rumor (that appears to have some substance to it)? The Google Earth image is dated 4/13/14, so it was uploaded fairly quickly. Construction on a new park can move faster than additions to an existing one, since there are far fewer site constraints and limitations regarding when and where construction crews can go. I would also assume that construction will move faster than in the US, France, or Japan, due to more relaxed building codes and larger numbers of workers For what it's worth, I vaguely remember seeing some aerial photos of HKDL when it was under construction, at a similar level of completion. I believe that was less than 2 years before the park opened, so there's still hope they could finish this park by the end of next year (~19 months from now)
Originally Posted By FerretAfros According to the new TEA report, I guess they're still officially saying it will be a late 2015 opening. I wonder if they might open the park then, but have a land or two that opens a few months later >>In new parks, all eyes are of course on Shanghai, as the much-anticipated late 2015 opening of Shanghai Disneyland approaches. Its attendance numbers are expected to significantly rearrange the numbers on this annual Theme Index in 2016, after the new park has been open for a full year. This would instantly propel Shanghai Disney into the top five parks in Asia, with China topping the list for the first time. It has been widely announced in recent news that anticipating the need for more capacity than was originally forecast, Shanghai Disneyland’s developers have significantly increased the project budget. Their decision was triggered by research — monitoring trends, market growth, and customer feedback. From what we understand, the development process is going reasonably well and is on track. A huge effort has been mounted to get the park open, with literally a million details to address. This park will feature some of the industry’s most advanced rides and attractions, and both Disney and the China investors perceive the need to get it right.<< <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.teaconnect.org/pdf/TEAAECOM2013.pdf">http://www.teaconnect.org/pdf/...2013.pdf</a>
Originally Posted By dagobert Thanks for the TEA link. I'm curious how SDL will perform. Disney was terribly wrong when they calculated attendance numbers for DLP.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros The DLP numbers always surprise me. They had those huge expectations originally, and then the crowds never quite got to what they planned. Yet, somehow, DLP has been the #1 tourist attraction in Europe every year since it opened. I just don't understand how the park can immediately be the top tourist attraction on the entire continent (which has plenty of well known tourist attractions of its own), yet is labeled a disappointment. I know a lot of it was because of the hotel overbuild, but the park attendance never really hit the goals either
Originally Posted By dagobert I wonder if DLP would have had a chance, if TWDC didn't put all the debt into the operating company. Space Mountain saved the resort. Before 1995 the attendance numbers were shrinking and finally the company made some money until they had to build the second gate.
Originally Posted By TDLFAN >>>s the Fantasyland boat ride going to be underground, or outdoors? It seems strange that it would have such a large footprint in the middle of the land, but if they're putting something on top of it (like Alice's Labyrinth), I guess it could make sense. <<< It's my understanding the SDL Castle was being built on top of the boat ride.
Originally Posted By Brad I want to share your first boat ride on that TDLFAN! Of course we'd better make it the second day after the park opens - based on the manners of the locals, not too long after that and you probably WILL NOT want to be sitting on those seats!!!
Originally Posted By TDLFAN This is a park that I am NOT looking forward to for that very same reason Bradley dear.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros I agree that the crowds will probably be an issue. The folks who think the crowds at DLP are rude will be in for a real eye opener That said, I attended the Shanghai World Expo in 2010 and didn't encounter too many problems. Perhaps I didn't notice it as much because I'd been in China for about 10 days so I was somewhat acclimated, but for the most part everybody behaved themselves. There will be some cultural differences to get used to (I saw lots of visitors who brought little plastic stools to sit on while they waited, and people who were terrified for their lives by really a really cheesy 3D movie), but I have hope that it will work out. Of course, it all depends on how-and-if any common decency rules are enforced
Originally Posted By dagobert Pictorial update on SDL: <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.thethemeparkguy.com/park/shanghai-disneyland/">http://www.thethemeparkguy.com...neyland/</a>
