Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<Another TSPL? What's so special about these three carnival rides that WDI wants to add them to SDL.>> It's a cheap way to add more attractions. And with the crowds they're expecting at the park they need all the attractions they can get.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt Nice design work on this park all around and I love the layout and the ambitious entrance and massive garden as the centerpiece. Finally a Disneyland without a Main Street USA! With all of that said, and as fascinating as some of the differences are, I just can't muster much excitement about another magic kingdom park. I'm almost certain I'll never go there.
Originally Posted By dagobert More news about SDL from Screamscape.com. >>>Today I’ve got the unofficial final “land” list to share for Shanghai Disneyland. Yesterday we talked about how the ‘hub’ area will be called Gardens of Imagination, but before you enter the Garden you will pass down Mickey Avenue, the name of the official entryway portion of the park taking the place of Main Street USA. Going left to right around the ‘hub’ will be Tomorrowland (yes, they are keeping the name), Toy Story Land, Fantasyland, Treasure Cove and Adventure Isle. The later two will take the place of a traditional “Adventureland” and as previously discussed there will be no Frontierland in this park either. I’m still working on narrowing down the list of attractions, but I’m told that everything I mentioned yesteday will be in the park, including an all new version of Soarin’. Tomorrowland will will feature a version of the Astro Orbiter / Rocket Jets ride along with the new Tron coaster and Buzz Lightyear ride. Fantasyland is rumored to have some kind of unique replacement for the traditional Tea Cups style ride, and according to the early rumors the Peter Pan’s Flight ride going into Shanghai will be bigger and better than the previous versions to date. The park will also still feature that rumored River Rapids ride (in the Adventure Isle area I believe)… but the Lost World Dinosaurs theme has been dropped in favor of something entirely new it seems. Oh… and there will be no It’s A Small World in the park either, as they are leaving that one to be unique to Hong Kong Disneyland in the region for now. <<<
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "Treasure Cove and Adventure Isle" Umm... what's the difference?
Originally Posted By dagobert >>>Umm... what's the difference?<<< Maybe it's the same like in Paris. Treasure Cove is the skull rock and Adventure Isle is an seperate island.
Originally Posted By dagobert Just out of interest, how trustworthy is Screamscape? I'm just glad WDI dropped the Dinosaur land. Although I do understand that SDL and HKDL should be different, classic Disney rides like it's a small world should be present in every Magic Kingdom style park.
Originally Posted By dagobert ^^Unfortunately it seems so. Since SDL and HKDL should be different, I feel sorry for HKDL that they have the lame Space Mountain version. They should have gotten the DLP version, because SDL will not have a SM and so a much more exciting ride would be more exciting.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros My guess is that Treasure Cove will be the POTC-based land that had so much early concept art (originally intended for HKDL), with the small buildings with terra cotta roofs surrounding a large body of water, while Adventure Isle will be more of the jungle-based Adventureland stuff (like what they have in DL). They seem pretty similar, but I think there's enough of a difference to justify both of them; whether or not there are enough attractions to justify them is another issue entirely. >>Just out of interest, how trustworthy is Screamscape?<< For years, they were not even remotely trustworthy, posting any rumor they could find. However, the last 5-or-so years, they've had a pretty good track record, and only seem to post things that they have a lot of confidence in. Since I also followed them in the early years, my vision of them will always be tainted by the bad years, but they're pretty good these days.
Originally Posted By Mr X ***according to the early rumors the Peter Pan’s Flight ride going into Shanghai will be bigger and better than the previous versions to date*** Now THAT sounds exciting!
Originally Posted By Dreamerica Yes, the Peter Pan ride upgrade sounds good, but another Toy Story land? In all the years Disney has been in the theme park business, this is the least appealing thing they have ever come up with and now its going to be at three Disney parks? No Main Street, no Frontierland, but there will be a Toy Story junkyard? Maybe they will throw in a ToonTown to add to the tackiness.
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< No Main Street, no Frontierland, but there will be a Toy Story junkyard? Maybe they will throw in a ToonTown to add to the tackiness. >>> Probably not. Remember that this is being driven by what the target market's child segment (i.e. mainland Chinese children) responds to. There was that story about Bob Iger watching the parade at HKDL's opening day in 2005, and observing the locals' reactions. When the classic Disney characters went by, there was more or less no reaction. But when the Pixar characters went by, everyone reacted in recognition. That's when he decided that Disney needed to buy Pixar, or so the story goes. Like it or not, Pixar characters are probably much more popular in mainland China than the Fab Five. It makes total sense to have a Toy Story Land as opposed to a Toontown.
Originally Posted By Dreamerica Well, they can have it. I just dont want to see this so called land anywhere near Anaheim.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros >>Like it or not, Pixar characters are probably much more popular in mainland China than the Fab Five.<< When I was in China in 2010, I didn't see any Pixar-related stuff outside of HKDL. We did, however, see a lot of blackmarket stuff based on the princesses, Pooh, and Mickey & friends. I don't know if that's a good gage for what's "popular", but it should be a pretty decent standard for who is recognizable. Then again, we saw a lot of misspellings like "Cinderel" and "Hreir" (which we could only assume meant "Ariel"), so maybe they really don't know whose in the parade.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<My guess is that Treasure Cove will be the POTC-based land that had so much early concept art (originally intended for HKDL), with the small buildings with terra cotta roofs surrounding a large body of water, while Adventure Isle will be more of the jungle-based Adventureland stuff (like what they have in DL). They seem pretty similar, but I think there's enough of a difference to justify both of them; whether or not there are enough attractions to justify them is another issue entirely.>> You are correct, and both will be full of attractions. The Adventureland areas are huge. The only thing is, the old HKDL concept art is not what you should expect here.
Originally Posted By dagobert >>>You are correct, and both will be full of attractions. The Adventureland areas are huge. The only thing is, the old HKDL concept art is not what you should expect here.<<< That sounds really interesting. I can imagine that SDL will be an amazing park. Will the pirates ride be based on the movies?
Originally Posted By believe >>>> I feel sorry for HKDL that they have the lame Space Mountain version<<<< What do you mean lame?! The ride itself is nearly the same as DL. But of course, the queue is superior at DL.
Originally Posted By dagobert >>>What do you mean lame?! The ride itself is nearly the same as DL. But of course, the queue is superior at DL.<<< Compared to DLP's Space Mountain, the ride is not so exciting. It has no catapult launch, no inversions and no corkscrews.
Originally Posted By SuperDry Does a roller coaster have to have inversions and corkscrews in order to not be "lame?"
