Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>No one is advocating torture.<< You brought it into this discussion by mocking Mele's statement in this thread. You have defended torture in the past but played fast and loose with the definition of it (much like the Bush administration). So thankfully, no one in the current administration is advocating torture.
Originally Posted By DVC_dad Do you "guys" you know, bury the hatchet when you see each other at meets? Do you get along and shake hands, etc or is there friction in the air at some meets? Do any Conservatives even go to any meets? I've always wondered that. You know, not letting all of this get too personal and all.
Originally Posted By mawnck Navy Seals? Ha! WE'LL show you Navy Seals, you Capitalist pigdogs: >> BEIJING, April 14 (Xinhuanet) -- Thousands of dolphins blocked the suspected Somali pirate ships when they were trying to attack Chinese merchant ships passing the Gulf of Aden, the China Radio International reported on Monday. The Chinese merchant ships escorted by a China's fleet sailed on the Gulf of Aden when they met some suspected pirate ships. Thousands of dolphins suddenly leaped out of water between pirates and merchants when the pirate ships headed for the China's. The suspected pirates ships stopped and then turned away. The pirates could only lament their littleness befor the vast number of dolphins. The spectacular scene continued for a while. << More (including a photo) at link: <a href="http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2009-04/14/content_11184581.htm" target="_blank">http://news.xinhuanet.com/engl...4581.htm</a>
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan I don't think most World Events folks go to meets. We prefer to stay in our little tin-foil lined sub-basement rooms, monitoring broadcasts for hidden messages from the Mother Ship. (But in all seriousness, I am sure the subject of politics wouldn't even come up at a meet. I'd never bring it up. I'd let my "RUSH LIMBAUGH STINKS!" t-shirt do the talking.) ; )
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>The pirates could only lament their littleness befor the vast number of dolphins.<< LOL! <---- promises to use the phrase "lament their littleness" at least once a day for the next week.
Originally Posted By Mr X ***Do you "guys" you know, bury the hatchet when you see each other at meets? Do you get along and shake hands, etc or is there friction in the air at some meets? Do any Conservatives even go to any meets*** This one time, me and Douglas rode the old skyway and toked up on his stash of medical mary jane (for his glaucoma), and then spent the whole afternoon just strolling through Fantasyland. Holding hands. But that was a long time ago. *sigh*
Originally Posted By mawnck >>We prefer to stay in our little tin-foil lined sub-basement rooms, monitoring broadcasts for hidden messages from the Mother Ship.<< HOW DID YOU KNOW ABOUT MY CONTROL FACILITY? I'm starting to get the BIG picture now ....
Originally Posted By DyGDisney >>>Do you "guys" you know, bury the hatchet when you see each other at meets? Do you get along and shake hands, etc or is there friction in the air at some meets? Do any Conservatives even go to any meets? I've always wondered that. You know, not letting all of this get too personal and all.<<<< I totally disagree with EVERYTHING douglasdubh says, but, he sounds just like my mom! I still go to her house and PRAY she doesn't bring up politics (although on Easter she showed us the protest poster she made for the tea party).
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder Dabob and I have met up the last two Decembers at Dl. He's the onlyone I've ever met. I don't think we talked politics at all either time.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <There is a world of difference between the actions of a LEO or a Navy seal in a "hot" situation, and the actions of a government towards its' captives once they are in custody and no longer a direct danger. Any fool can see that.> Yes. In one case you trust the judgment of soldiers, and in one case you don't.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <You brought it into this discussion by mocking Mele's statement in this thread.> No, I didn't. <You have defended torture in the past but played fast and loose with the definition of it (much like the Bush administration).> No, I didn't.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <This one time, me and Douglas rode the old skyway and toked up on his stash of medical mary jane (for his glaucoma), and then spent the whole afternoon just strolling through Fantasyland. Holding hands.> You're such a liar. It was the peoplemover, I've never had glaucoma, it was your joint, it was evening, and we never held hands. But the "Tron" room was pretty trippy. Almost as good as wandering around Carmel at night on 'shrooms.
Originally Posted By DVC_dad Did I mention that I love Michael Eisner and wish that he was back at the head of DIS?
Originally Posted By Inspector 57 <<You're such a liar. It was the peoplemover, I've never had glaucoma, it was your joint, it was evening, and we never held hands. But the "Tron" room was pretty trippy. Almost as good as wandering around Carmel at night on 'shrooms.>> LMAO, DouglasDubh! Very funny! Clever, original, and informed! It's a shame that more of your posts aren't as personal or substantive or real as that one. In WE, you almost always respond with "I know you are, but what am I?!"-level PeeWee Herman-type retorts. You're better than that. You can think for yourself and post accordingly, as your above post indicates. Show us more of that. Please.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <Show us more of that.> You know, lots of conservatives are clever, original, and informed, including many who used to post here. Maybe if they weren't treated with so much hostility most of the time, they'd post more clever, original, and informed comments.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan <You brought it into this discussion by mocking Mele's statement in this thread.> No, I didn't.<< See post 48. >><You have defended torture in the past but played fast and loose with the definition of it (much like the Bush administration).> No, I didn't.<< I think you did, but perhaps I inhaled second hand smoke behind you in the Tron Superspeed Tunnel.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <Were we violating our Constitution when we held German or Japanese soldiers indefinitely during WWII?> No. We kept to the precepts of the Geneva Convention, and no one ever held that we didn't. <No, we weren't, just like we weren't violating our Constitution during the Bush administration.> Except the two situations were not "just like" each other. At all. But nice try at blurring them together. Flash forward to this decade and we have Bush administration lawyers specifically arguing that the Geneva Conventions were "quaint" and need not be applied to our current prisoners. (And you can argue whether that was warranted or not, but not that the policy did not change.) And then we have the Red Cross specifically saying that some of them were tortured, as well as prisoners we've released and admitted were innocent, saying they were tortured. <You want to know how liberals get my goat? They argue from a faulty premise, or against strawmen.> The only one I've seen doing that on this thread is you, Doug. As the above illustrates. And then you accuse others of doing it. And that gets my goat. Not "conservatives," because most try to debate sincerely. But when there is clear evidence that the treatment of our WWII POWS and the Gitmo prisoners were NOT the same (from the Bush lawyer memos and now from the Red Cross) and this has been brought up many times on these boards, and you still try to say that respective policies were "just like" each other, that's just willful obtuseness at best, and disingenuous more likely. I respect conservative thought, (especially "main street conservatives" like my folks), but I will never respect that, no matter who it comes from.
