Originally Posted By SpokkerJones "Second, you assume that if the scene was truly broken, all they need to do is zip in, replace a couple of parts, and that would be it. The fact that it's a whole scene down indicates that it's not a failure of a bunch of individual AA's, but something central to the scene, like maybe a hydraulic pump or perhaps some piece of computer hardware" Relevant to what I posted above, this is something a blog that was more than a propaganda machine could get out and communicate. If social media was actually useful, Disney would maintain a blog for each property (Anaheim, Orlando, etc.) with regular operational updates. There could even be anecdotes from those in maintenance like, "Oh we had a hell of a time getting the birds to get going again." Again, I'll make the parallel to the world of public transportation. The other day I was talking to an executive of the local transit agency about a new light rail line. It has been delayed and they don't sugar coat it. They laid out the problems (mostly difficulties with signalling, a junction and utility relocation), their potential remedies and that's that. Now, this is a public agency and there is an expectation that they must communicate, but I wonder why it would be so bad for a private company to adopt such principles?
Originally Posted By Bob Paris 1 I don't know who Eli Manning is - is he that sham Mexican father that went to central casting and got a "family" together and travels around the US visiting tourist attractions while getting paid advertising dollars? Might be wrong - doesn't sound Mexican.
Originally Posted By SpokkerJones No, I think he's a football player or something. The Disney Parks Blog is very exciting he is going to Walt Disney World. Splash Mountain's problems should be the top story on The Disney Parks Blog, not celebrities.
Originally Posted By Autopia Deb Eli Manning, quarterback for Super Bowl 46 champion New York Giants.
Originally Posted By fkurucz <<Let's say there is a "parts problem." It's kind of silly at face value but I'll give them the benefit of the doubt.>> I won't. My guess is that they used to keep spare parts in inventory and now they don't, as that costs money. From a cost perspective its more efficient to order parts when needed. The problem is that the suppliers, who are also hesitant to keep anything in inventory, will have to back order them. And in the meantime the attraction remains broken.
Originally Posted By fkurucz >>I don't know who Eli Manning is - is he that sham Mexican father that went to central casting and got a "family" together and travels around the US visiting tourist attractions while getting paid advertising dollars?<< The Super Bowl (the American Football championship game) was played today and Manning's team, the New York Giants won. Disney pays the winning quarterback to say on camera, right after the game ends, that he's going to Disneyland or Disneyworld. This tradition actually began spontaneously years ago when the winning quarterback was asked by a reporter what was he going to do next and he responded "I'm going to Disneyland"
Originally Posted By SpokkerJones fkurucz, I agree with you completely. I was giving them the benefit of the doubt in my hypothetical. No, I think it's a complete failure on their part, especially when you consider the vast resources of this corporation.
Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA <^^ But now it's completely staged.> It's pretty much always been staged.
Originally Posted By Bob Paris 1 "The Super Bowl (the American Football championship game) was played today and Manning's team, the New York Giants won" Oh. Okay. Had no idea who he was or that the superbowel was on today or who won. We don't have gridiron in Australia.
Originally Posted By fkurucz >>We don't have gridiron in Australia.<< Lucky you. I didn't even watch it. My son told me that Wayne Rooney, who plays for Manchester United, watched part of the game and said it was the most boring thing he ever saw. One of his comments, IIRC correctly, was how could Gridiron even be considered "football"?
Originally Posted By PotNoodle I don't watch football, either. It's a waste of time. However, I would not use Wayne Rooney as an arbiter of what is scintillating and what is boring. *cough* Thick as two short planks.*cough*
Originally Posted By danyoung >This tradition actually began spontaneously years ago when the winning quarterback was asked by a reporter what was he going to do next and he responded "I'm going to Disneyland"< No, it didn't begin that way. It was always a paid deal, with Disney making the deal with either the winning quarterback or sometimes the MVP.
Originally Posted By skinnerbox If you really want to know how this marketing campaign was created, you need to go back to a dinner that Michael and Jane Eisner attended, where they sat with Dick Rutan and Jeana Yeager, who had just completed their round-the-world non-stop journey aboard the Voyager. According to Jeana, Jane Eisner was making the typical small talk at the dinner table, when she turned to Jeana and said something to the effect, "So, you two have just completed a record-breaking trip flying nonstop around the world. What are you going to do next?" Jeana, who didn't consider that Jane was asking about future aviation goals that she and Dick were working towards, believed instead that Jane was asking a more literal question about what they were going to do tomorrow. So Jeana answered, "We're going to Disneyland." Upon overhearing this, Michael's little executive light bulb went 'ding!' over his head, realizing what a great marketing campaign that Jane and Jeana had just laid out in front of him. The rest, as they say, is history.
Originally Posted By fkurucz ^^I'll take your word for it. I recall reading somewhere that the first time it happened it was spontaneous, and that was when the marketing light bulb went off. But after checking wikipedia I see that it matches what you said.
Originally Posted By fkurucz <<However, I would not use Wayne Rooney as an arbiter of what is scintillating and what is boring. *cough* Thick as two short planks.*cough*>> LOL! No arguing with that! But he is perhaps one of the best known athletes in the world. I'm sure Bob_Paris_1 has heard of Rooney. Most American Football players are unknown outside of North America >>Had no idea who he was or that the superbowel was<< LOL! I like that choice of misspelling. I seem to recall that back in the 70's there was some sort of mass water supply or sewer failure as millions of people in one city all hit the toilet at the same time when one of the Superbowl games went into half time. According to snopes, it isn't true, but it's still funny.
Originally Posted By Bob Paris 1 I know of Mickey Rooney. Never heard of Wayne Rooney. The only English soccer player I know of is David Beckham. People should not assume their "famous" sports stars are known throughout the entire world. For example, I would not assume Ben Cousins, Dermot Brereton or Johnathan Brown were known outside Australia. Yet they are some of the biggest football players we have. Hell, since two of our states are strictly rugby states(and not predominantly AFL), those people are not even well known in those Auusie states, let alone England or America!
Originally Posted By CDF2 "Is this something Disney would be interested in doing? Probably not, but it's a strategy. But it only works if you don't muzzle the person you hired. In this hypothetical, it's something the Disney blog could get out in front of and address before anyone else did. It doesn't have to be a formal thing but something like, "We noticed some problems on Splash Mountain and we hope to get it to 100% soon." Given that there a millions of Disney customers who don't read blogs or might not even be aware of problems, why would Disney seek to advertize issues to the public? That seems like a bit more disclosure than one would expect from an entertainment company. Although, it must be noted that Disney does provide full and accurate disclosure of information regarding ride maintenance and closure schedules in their public website so obviously they understand that such information does have value to their customers who might be planning a trip and want to make sure their favorite attraction(s) are scheduled to be operating.
Originally Posted By fkurucz >>People should not assume their "famous" sports stars are known throughout the entire world.<< Being that soccer isn't big in Oz (like us, you have your own flavor of football), that isn't surprising. But Wayne Rooney is world famous, as is his club, Manchester United. ManU has fan clubs around the world and its matches are broadcast in 200 countries (according to wikipedia)
