Originally Posted By Bob Paris 1 Edited to add: "He does not just come and spout unreasoned vitriol and flamebait AT ALL!".
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Thanks Bob, though this week alone one current Disney cast member and 1 former one (both from positions to know the current blueprint and direction of travel) have said the issue is me. Seems the Disney many of us loved for decades is gone. Boy am I looking forward to my trip to Spain with Marriott in a fortnight. To think Disney would have got that money once upon a time. ~ Glad I bought MVCI rather than being stuck with DVC points ~
Originally Posted By Bob Paris 1 "this week alone one current Disney cast member and 1 former one (both from positions to know the current blueprint and direction of travel) have said the issue is me" Don't listen to them Dave. Even if this is so, the issue is "us". A great MANY of "us". The good thing to know is that places like the TDR and new additions like WWoHP keep this spirt of immersion and "placemaking" more than alive.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Agreed, though it is worrisome to see Vegas stop the attention to detail theming and Disney do what they are doing. It is very worrisome.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>"Celebrate You" has become so iconic of the current marketing campaign, that when I hear it now I only hear a Disney commercial -- not the message that the song contains. That's when the song becomes compromised. I never remember being offended in such a way before this year, but there have been long gaps in my visits, so this may be standard procedure these days. Regrettable.<<< That I would agree with, but that's not such a bad thing...I don't mind my Disney songs now and then. Though...I do want some IoA BGM now!
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>what we need is someone from the Disney family, who grew up with Walt, who understands his thinking, to take over the theme parks and run it the way he wanted it done.<<< Uni creative? DID I JUST SAY THAT!? Maybe.....
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>>What I do have a problem with is when the marketing campaigns start being the main concern of TWDC, over the quality that Disney once stood for. I do have a problem with the generic one size fits all shopping experience the WDW has been transformered into. I do have a problem when Characters are crawling out of the woodwork at all the Parks, and where meet, and greets, and character meals are substituted for quality Disney attractions. I do have a problem when price points are going up once or twice a year, while the overall entertainment factor is being diminished. I do have a problem with Dining being reduced to a very expensive get them in, get them out experience, with the ever shrinking menus, lower quality of food, and the fact you need to make reservations months in advance. All in the hopes of convincing Guest that the Disney Dining Plan is a wonderful experience, and a must have. I am all for putting the Disney brand out there, but I do have a problem when brand takes precedence over show, and that seems to be the case now to me.<<<< So WELL SAID, Pierce. I agree in full.. To add... I don't mind synergy, and I don't mind them using their brand power. It works. But I do mind them using that as a crutch when it comes to creating new experiences that could be equally as good as the synergized ones. They need a happy balance.
Originally Posted By CaptainMichael <<< Though...I do want some IoA BGM now! >>> :-D <<< Uni creative? DID I JUST SAY THAT!? Maybe.....>>> YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!! Transformation is complete. I feel like Emperor Palpatine and you are Anakin Skywalker.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer Good God, Michael. LOL. I'm not totally turned. I still crave WDW, and felt a little guilty at the sight of the Purple Gates last night. That's still home. IoA and HP is a refreshing and amazing compliment and alternative to what got me into all this i the first place. I'm hooked to both now.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> I'm not totally turned. I still crave WDW, and felt a little guilty at the sight of the Purple Gates last night. That's still home. IoA and HP is a refreshing and amazing compliment and alternative to what got me into all this i the first place. I'm hooked to both now. << Oh how the Mouse weeps tonight!
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer Good! It's about time. They need to do something. If they don't, they've REALLY lost touch.
Originally Posted By CaptainMichael <<<Good God, Michael. LOL. I'm not totally turned. I still crave WDW, and felt a little guilty at the sight of the Purple Gates last night. That's still home. IoA and HP is a refreshing and amazing compliment and alternative to what got me into all this i the first place. I'm hooked to both now. >>> In time, you will see how far you have come.
Originally Posted By trekkeruss I'm a teeny bit perplexed over one thing: if Disney had built the WWOHP exactly the way Uni has done, would it be as acclaimed, or would some say that Disney still lacks the vision to create something unique?
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer I would be a little miffed with them that they had to resort to synergy, as universal has done....but the amount of quality and showmanship nixed any of those complaints from me the second I stood in the land. If Disney had this I would be thrilled out of my head, even if it isn't "there's".
Originally Posted By CaptainMichael Universal needed the Potter franchise in order to finally have something with the nostalgia/ following that Disney has had grip on for all these years. Good synergy.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer Agreed. It's putting something NEW out, in that sense. They bought Potter to use him for that reason. There's a fine line in that and creating something and then plastering it all over another product and buying it. Both need to done carefully. WWoHP was done in the right way.
Originally Posted By CaptainMichael <<<Agreed. It's putting something NEW out, in that sense. They bought Potter to use him for that reason. There's a fine line in that and creating something and then plastering it all over another product and buying it. Both need to done carefully. WWoHP was done in the right way.>>> Disney is hell bent on making "interactive experiences" but they are going about it the wrong way. They keep ignoring the true interactivity of places like World Showcase, Adventurers Club, and now Wizarding World of Harry Potter. This is what people want. Not RFID and APPs. It's not enough to build an attraction, they want complete immersiveness. Hogsmeade is an extension of Forbidden Journey. It sets you up and gets you in the mood for the main attraction. Disney used to excel at this. Expedition Everest does this, but the attraction itself fails.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer That could be fixed in a few months. All they have to do is refurb it.
Originally Posted By bobbelee9 I truely hope someone at Disney who can do something about it, is paying attention to what you guys are saying. This old lady is impressed with what you are saying. I want to amend something I said in another thread. I (not EE) need a shot of pixie dust.
