Originally Posted By NYthrillseeker Absolutely disgusting behavior, and punching an officer? What is wrong with some people in this world. It upsets me that these people reside in my state, though that town is out on Long Island and nowhere near me. Like someone else said, if they haven't yet been banned from Disney forever, they definitely should be.
Originally Posted By sherrytodd How do you ban someone from Disney forever? You don't have to show an id to get in, just buy a ticket. I could see them not being able to buy an AP but how could they stop them from buying a daily admission.
Originally Posted By NYthrillseeker That's a valid point, I hadn't thought about that. Well they should be banned from every staying at a Disney resort (that does need ID), and if they are ever spotted in a Disney park (by facial recognition), they would be quietly removed. Obviously over time and millions of guests, that doesn't seem possible, but if they behave the same way next time, they'll be spotted quickly.
Originally Posted By AuroraRose <<<How do you ban someone from Disney forever? You don't have to show an id to get in, just buy a ticket. I could see them not being able to buy an AP but how could they stop them from buying a daily admission.>>> Where's spirit when you need him?? My guess would be that Disney has your fingerprints on file, and they just flag them. you have to scan your fingers to get in the park, they need to be filed with your ticket info somewhere to be validated upon each entry, so whats to stop disney from keeping them permanantly and flagging them as banned?
Originally Posted By sherrytodd It's not fingerprints; it measures the bones in your fingers and I don't know if that is enough to identify an individual, just rule out others who may be using another persons pass.
Originally Posted By Autopia Deb Well there's no way I can think of to enforce a life-time ban. But, Disney can inform them they have been banned for life and if found on property they will be ejected without refunding their admission. I can see 10 or 20 years down the line Delinquent JR seeing mommy or daddy escorted off property, I feel sorry for the kid(s) already.
Originally Posted By GMouse There wouldn't necessarilly be a way to get the name associated with the ticket even if you could tie the finger scan to a ticket. People buy tickets for other people and sometimes they just pay cash.
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< But, Disney can inform them they have been banned for life and if found on property they will be ejected without refunding their admission. >>> It's a little more than that. Typically, they'd be given a trespass notice, which informs them they are no longer permitted on property. If they get caught coming back, then it's not just a matter of being ejected without a refund - they get arrested and go to jail for trespassing. Pretty much any private business can do this with people that they don't want to come back. As several people have already pointed out, there is the obvious problem of how do you detect them if they come back, but if they know that they will be arrested immediately if they do come back and get caught, it's enough of a deterrent for most people.
Originally Posted By danyoung >It's not fingerprints; it measures the bones in your fingers ...< They've changed the system in the past few months. It does indeed look at your fingerprints, but the system does not keep your entire fingerprint on file - only data points that are matched up with each scan. And you don't need to do the fingerprint thing with a single ticket, so there's no way to keep these malcontents off property if they really want to get in.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<It's not fingerprints; it measures the bones in your fingers >> They used to do that when you had to insert your index and middle finger into the finger thingie. That is no longer the process. You press your fingertip against a reading area and it looks at your fingerprint. In theory the system doesn't store your actual fingerprint, just a mathematical representation of it (kind of like it did with your finger bones), so personal privacy issues aren't as troublesome. But checking against the mathematical representation would be good enough to use when banning someone.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip Oops... danyoung beat me to it. I guess both of us coming up with the same answer means it must be accurate!!
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 Just the typical WalMart family having a magical WDW vacation. I don't know what all the fuss is about. When you cater to a certain demogrpahic, you really shouldn't be all that surprised when they act according to form.
Originally Posted By danyoung > guess both of us coming up with the same answer means it must be accurate!! < I'm just impressed that we both came up with the same details in our explanations! Great minds and all . . .
Originally Posted By MPierce >> When you cater to a certain demogrpahic, you really shouldn't be all that surprised when they act according to form. << Unfortunately that seems to becoming more prevalent as a whole, not only at Disney, but a lot of other businesses also. It's the pursuit of the All-Mighty Dollar, reguardless of how it effects your other customers. I am a firm believer in capitalism, just not to the point where it overshadows quality in product, and customer satisfaction. I read an article in one of the N.Y. papers that said they had been banned from Disney Parks as well as Euro-Disney. I'm assuming they mean the 8 parks in the States, and the 2 in paris. How they would enforce that ban is beyond me. Maybe they have a spy satellite tracking them right now.
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORDDU: Years ago--in California--my sisters and I knew this young man whom Disneyland refused admittance into their park on a permanent basis. Security guards were always on hand to watch for him. Whenever they saw him, they would escort him away--usually before he made it past the turnstyles. ORWEN: We don't remember what it was he did to get himself banned from Disneyland, but it certainly wasn't anything nearly so bad as what the meanies for THIS topic thread did. ORDDU: The young man in California often tried to enter the park by wearing various disguises and sometimes he did manage to fool the Security guards. But, eventually, each of his disguises became well known to the point where he ran out of disguises altogether. It was a terrible fate for such an avid Disneyland fan. ORWEN: I wonder whatever happened to that young man? ORGOCH: He grew up an' became an OLD man--just like ya'd expect him ta do--ya dumb Ditz!
Originally Posted By TDLFAN >>I'm just impressed that we both came up with the same details in our explanations! Great minds and all . . .<< <--rolls eyes. Get a room.
Originally Posted By sun-n-fun NYthrillseeker, I am also embarrassed to hear they are from NY. I live at the complete opposite end of the state and had never heard of the town they were from. But to most of the country when you say you are from NY, they think NYC. I hate to think I may be lumped in with them!! Whether they hit an officer or not, acting like that in any public, family destination is disgusted. It's too bad that someone taught them that is how to behave.
Originally Posted By Inspector 57 <<Just the typical WalMart family having a magical WDW vacation. I don't know what all the fuss is about. When you cater to a certain demogrpahic, you really shouldn't be all that surprised when they act according to form.>> What did Disney do wrong, Spirit?
