Slash and Burn ...

Originally Posted By barboy

///I believe where people live, they should be able to buy property///

///You said that non citizens should not be able to buy US property///


You know dave I was very explicit 2 or more times that I wish non US citizens and *NON PERMANENT RESIDENTS* should be barred from real property ownership in the US.

You must have missed my stance on those living vs not living in the US. I don't want US dwellers sending rent checks to Mongolians, Kenyans, Spanish or Aussies. We have enough problems in the US without foreign nationals laying claim to our most prized and tangible asset, land and space(condos).

 

Originally Posted By davewasbaloo

You meant simultainiously? I thought you meant either foreign, or not living there. That is a different proposition.

But yes, I think isolationism is a selfish,dirty practice.

 

Originally Posted By barboy

///But yes, I think isolationism is a selfish,dirty practice.///


Oh I believe you since you willfully moved/voluntarily migrated to the world's most expansionist and intrusive nation since the 1600's........yes, even more than France, US, Japan, Netherlands and Spain.

I guess Switzerland was off the table for consideration LOL!

 

Originally Posted By barboy

You know something guys(dave and dave)...... the 3 of us have something profound in common compared to our fellow LPer's:


we are 3 US male citizens married to foreign nationals and we're living in our wive's homelands overseas(UK, Japan, Philippines)..... OK, I'm not totally there ***yet*** but I'm making plans to fully move and I already have property there where I 'live' 2 months out of the year. The 3 of us are(and soon to be) expats. living in a strange land compared to the US---- well everything is strange compared to the US is it not, LOL

 

Originally Posted By CarolinaDisneyDad

>>>When is the last time this has happened between two countries in the developed world?<<<.................................................................................................... .... how about Iran during the hostage crisis. I think North Korea over nukes. Cuba forever. And I think Libyan assets were frozen for a time. Correct me if I'm wrong, World events is not my strong suit.

 

Originally Posted By CarolinaDisneyDad

>>>I believe where people live, they should be able to buy property, and vote<<<.....................................................................................I was going along with you OK right up to this point. I don't support non citizen voting. How would you police the elction. There are so many Illegals it would be impossible to ensure 1 vote for 1 person when there are millions. It would be unbelievably expensive to issue voter cards based on proof of residence and not on social security number and to then keep track. I just don't see this option.

 

Originally Posted By davewasbaloo

Sorry, I should have stated voting in local elections (one vote per adult registered on local rolls). Illegals of course would not count.

Indeed Barboy, Mr X, World Disney and I all share a lot in common. I am sure once you move, your perceptions are likely to change too.

 

Originally Posted By MPierce

>> Come on over and visit us, we love you, but stay away from our real property. You can buy or lay claim to our Harley bikes, Levis, Jacuzzi tubs/baths or Jack Daniels but keep your paws off our lands and residential spaces like condos. <<

Not Jack Daniels! It doesn't get any more American than that.

 

Originally Posted By MPierce

>> Can you hold dual citizenship Dave?

 

Originally Posted By MPierce

Never mind Dave you answered my question a little furthere on.

 

Originally Posted By MPierce

>>
we are 3 US male citizens married to foreign nationals and we're living in our wive's homelands overseas(UK, Japan, Philippines)..... OK, I'm not totally there ***yet*** but I'm making plans to fully move and I already have property there where I 'live' 2 months out of the year. The 3 of us are(and soon to be) expats. living in a strange land compared to the US---- well everything is strange compared to the US is it not, LOL <<

You are moving to the PI barboy?

 

Originally Posted By barboy

///You are moving to the PI barboy?///

Well, I sort of already have moved there since I have 3 pieces of real property, family(in-laws) and I've been staying 2 months out of the year. If I have my way it will soon be the reverse......... 10 months in the jungled, polluted, 3rd world, terrorist/sex worker/kidnap/earthquake/typhoon/malaria ridden PI, I mean paradise and two months in boring USA

 

Originally Posted By fkurucz

<<Should I sell my American real estate?>>

Can you find a buyer?

 

Originally Posted By fkurucz

<<Best? They were sold future lodging at a stiff discount. Cannibalizing future sales props up income in the near term, at the expense of the long term.<

you are forgetting that these 100,000 families are also paying monthly maintenance fees to maintain those facilities whether they attend of not>>

So is DVC a good value or not? I seem to recall the reasoning offered here in LP that even with the annual fees its a bargain.

 

Originally Posted By fkurucz

<<Funny, I was raised to believe the NAZIs were the bad guys. Isolationism has been the cause of almost every American ill.>>

Tell that to the guy whose job was offshored.

 

Originally Posted By fkurucz

<<It's the security guys at the airport. The eyeball her like a criminal, and stress that she should not exceed her stay (despite the fact I am a US citizen and we have been married for 8 years, and together for 12). Some are nice, most are not.>>

Don't feel bad. They treat everyone like cr*p, including Americans. There even used to be a soft drink commercial (Sierra Mist) that depicted ham fisted TSA employees harassing a passenger in order to steal his Sierra Mist:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3BMDPKtnNQ" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...MDPKtnNQ</a>

 

Originally Posted By NikkiLOVESMickey

My mom gets harassed by security every time she flies, and she's an 80 year old grandmother. She regularly gets pulled to the side and searched.

 

Originally Posted By Spirit of 74

Wow ... leave your thread and it goes off in a bizarre tangent all without ... I am feeling so ... so lonely and ... left out ... OK, so let's wade back in ...

 

Originally Posted By Spirit of 74

Oops, premature postage. I should probably see a spirited urologist about that.

So where do I start ... I guess I am on Dave's side ... I hate the way people are treated by Homeland (sounds like Nazi Germany folks) Security ... and I know few people here who represent the best in America like that big UKer. Anyone who would harrass his family should be forced to ride Imagination 3.0 for 48 hours straight!

Now ... here's an interesting post by my pal Nikki:

<<My mom gets harassed by security every time she flies, and she's an 80 year old grandmother. She regularly gets pulled to the side and searched.>>

Well, see that's the problem and it's directly related to the boob who is leaving office soon and stole our Constitutional rights and the boobs in Congress who went right along with him in an effort to get the 'evildoers' (God, I love that term!)

And don't yell at me Pierce, I'm only taking posts that are here and running with them. ;-)

Anyway ... while I have my issues with Nikki (and really, who wouldn't? ... that's a joke, although she won't take it that way!) I would go out on any limb here and say that her Mom (even if she is dating a 28-year-old Muslim named Assad)is no terrorist. The woman shouldn't be harrassed everytime she's at an airport flying to WDW (or elsewhere).

But this crap happens all the time and it really is un-American. People are afraid to fly. People don't want to take shoes off ... or have themselves or their children, parents, significant others felt up in order to get on a plane ... and TSA damn well knows this. It's all about having a society live in a pervasive atmosphere of fear. And I have to say that from Guersney (shout out to Malin and hope I spelled that right ... if not, blame the wine to Milan, from Beijing to the Bahamas, from Paris to Amsterdam, from ... I never feel that ... and most times when I return to the states the TSA/Homeland Security folks are so damn unfriendly. That makes me sick!

I will give props to the folks at O'hare who were great to me upon my return from China, though!

See, I ended on a happy note .. however my next post won't be so happy ... as I try to get back on track.

 

Originally Posted By Spirit of 74

Word from WDI is that if Disney and Beijing don't come to an agreement on the Shanghai resort project look for between 20-25% of the staff to be gutted.

Again, you gotta love the way Rasulo and Staggs work their magic.