Originally Posted By danyoung >It's just that WDI has CONDITIONED guests since 1998 to ACCEPT toons 24/7 in the other lands.< Sure. Disney is cramming characters down our throats because they're so unpopular. I guess those long lines for autographs and hugs every time a character shows up in the parks are all staged by Disney to further brainwash us.
Originally Posted By HMButler79 "Sure. Disney is cramming characters down our throats because they're so unpopular. I guess those long lines for autographs and hugs every time a character shows up in the parks are all staged by Disney to further brainwash us."" I sure didn't see ANY long lines until the whole Birthdayland/Starland/Toontown concepts. hmmmmmmmmm........
Originally Posted By trekkeruss <<I sure didn't see ANY long lines until the whole Birthdayland/Starland/Toontown concepts>> So Disney shouldn't build anything that might prove to be popular?
Originally Posted By danyoung >I sure didn't see ANY long lines until the whole Birthdayland/Starland/Toontown concepts. hmmmmmmmmm........< Then you haven't been paying attention. Long lines at character appearances have been standard since they started appearing.
Originally Posted By Yookeroo "Why don't you just present your opinion, which is you like the change - and be done with it?!" No. Besides, if you think my opinions is just that I "like the change", you're really not paying much attention. I suppose for the people that believe that a great evil has been perpetrated on IASW can't understand that it's possible to dislike some of the changes without turning into Chicken Little. Nuance ain't their strong point (these are the same people who think that the IASW message was a subtle one). "Oh really, stop pandering like we're six. No guests before or since were throwing hissy fits over LACK of characters INSIDE attractions." And yet, when Disney does add characters, it increases the popularity. (I don't think "pandering" is the word you want there.) "It's just that WDI has CONDITIONED guests since 1998 to ACCEPT toons 24/7 in the other lands." Right. Disney is conditioning the public to accept characters since that's the only thing they want to do. You really believe this? The public demand for the characters dates back to the opening of Epcot (and probably earlier). "Apparently you didn't pick up on the sarcasm, Bellella." Is that a whooshing sound I hear? "When is 'too much' enough for them? When will it stop?" I've been accused of "pandering", but it's pretty clear that Bellella really doesn't understand this stuff.
Originally Posted By oc_dean Bellella .. this post is for you - Tell me if you have seen An American In Paris. I didn't bring it up before ... just out of thin air. There is a correlation I see between "An American in Paris" and 'it's a small world', that I haven't mentioned yet. Or if you have seen "The Red Shoes", or any number of classic film musicals ... I have something I'd like to mention with you. thanks.
Originally Posted By oc_dean >>Besides, if you think my opinions is just that I "like the change", you're really not paying much attention. << I have been paying attention. And I got your point. I get your position, and I have heard enough. So .. do me a favor .. and from this point forward please stop quoting me. I have no further interest in discussing this with you .. and if you do, it will be perceived as an act of berating. So please stop.
Originally Posted By DlandDug >>I have no further interest in discussing this with you .. and if you do, it will be perceived as an act of berating.<< So at what point did this turn from a discussion board into a monologue board???
Originally Posted By oc_dean Yeah. You're right. Anyone can just spew out any garbage that comes out of their mouth .. and be called "discussion." I'll just simply start doing what I did with jonvn's posts for several years - skip right past them! Method works quite well.
Originally Posted By oc_dean So .. Bellella .. don't forget about my request. I've said my say .. for the other posters .. I'm sure they've heard enough .. But I'd like to tell you what I think on something .. Because I think you'll appreciate what have to say. .... And I hope some will just give it a break. I'm not trying to change anyone's mind on this. I'm WAY past that point now. WAY past it.
Originally Posted By danyoung dean, you're being very uncool here. You're asking us for the right to post whatever you want and not receive responses about it. And that's just not how discussion boards work. If you post stuff, be prepared for others to have opinions either in agreement with you or in opposition to you. If you no longer like the discussion, leave. But don't for a second try to control who says what in response to what you've posted. The moderators can do that - you can't.
Originally Posted By HMButler79 ""And yet, when Disney does add characters, it increases the popularity."" Cause Tarzans Treehouse and Pooh is TOTALLY packing them in. yawwwwwn.....NEXT.. ""The public demand for the characters dates back to the opening of Epcot (and probably earlier)."" Another apologist MISCONSTRUING the message. Disney characters did not appear <INSIDE> an EPCOT attraction until 2006. Says ALOT. Before it was JUST the Fab 5 in Captain Eo style costumes. Night and day hun.
Originally Posted By tukogirl I have completed a lot of surveys for Disney, either in Disneyland itself or via an online request from them. Almost every one of them asks if I would like to see more characters in the parks. Unfortunately, I usually say yes. Because what I would like to see are more of the obscure characters that I still enjoy, roaming the parks. But they aren't asking me me that specifically. Obviously, surveys very often skew data,and the same data can oftentimes be interpreted a multitude of ways. And when Disney sees the response of 'yes I want more toons in the park' they try to fit them in wherever they can, because it's what the people want! But I for one am going to be much more careful about how I answer any Disney survey, because it's not always their fault that they are asking if I want more toons and and I'm not taking the time to say or write out that I want more obscure toons out wandering the parks for happenstance meet and greets rather than in every ride and gift shop.
Originally Posted By oc_dean Well, as a matter of fact Dan, I was hoping to get a response from Bellella .. and then take it email. At this point .. don't you agree this subject has been beaten to death enough? No one is going to change their minds, you know. No matter what side of the fence someone is on. And since LP has no Private Message feature .... going into a topic to reach a certain individual is the only way. see ya!
Originally Posted By danyoung dean, I'll say it again. If you are done with this topic then QUIT POSTING! As long as people are still communicating, the thread will go on and no one but a moderator can stop it.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <Disney characters did not appear <INSIDE> an EPCOT attraction until 2006.> Pretty sure I remember watching a "goofy on health" movie in Wonders of Life in 1993. And a movie with Timon and Puumba in The Land in 1998.
Originally Posted By trekkeruss Heck, Disney created a character for EPCOT: Figment. He was there almost from the very beginning.
