Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom On my recent trip I really didn't notice anyone smoking with one exception, at MGM between ST and Sci-fi Drive in. There were at least a dozen people smoking away and you have no choice but to walk by on your way passing through.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip There is no better smell on earth than the smell of a Kool Mild being smoked. God, I miss them.
Originally Posted By cape cod joe I can think of at ONE but this is a disney site. See I can out light-heart anyone!
Originally Posted By ssWEDguy >> There is no better smell on earth than the smell of a Kool Mild being smoked. << I'll put the smell of a good cup of dark roasted Starbucks in this category.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <I'll put the smell of a good cup of dark roasted Starbucks in this category< another addiction -- and one I still have
Originally Posted By DeadMansChest I will step out on this subject. I am an adult with children of my own. Its plain and simple and I am going to yell. I DONT WANT MY KIDS TO GET CANCER FROM YOUR SIDE STREAM SMOKE. IF YOU WANNA KILL YOURSELF PLEASE GO AHEAD AND WHY NOT DO IT FASTER THAN SMOKING? I make no apologies for outwardly attacking any "poor smoker" when they are breaking the rules. It is a stupid habit for weak minded people who can't handle reality. What do you smokers have to say about it? How can you POSSIBLY defend the habit? You can't because you even know its stupid and you should quit.
Originally Posted By TDLFAN Defend the habit? Well...it's an addiction, just like any other drug, and yes...they think it won't kill them. But to quote a similar stance from a well known celebrity... "Let's control the World's population. KEEP smoking!"
Originally Posted By DeadMansChest Oh and you can spare the crap about everyone has vices. My vices won't kill your kids.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<What do you smokers have to say about it? How can you POSSIBLY defend the habit?>> They can defend it because although it is a bad thing (which is why I quit), I don't know that it is any worse than drinking alcohol to excess or being obese. I agree that others should not have to deal with second-hand smoke and support STRONG enforcement of the "smoking only in designated areas" policy. But when I smoked at WDW it really irked me when I would be in a designated smoking area, CLEARY marked not only by signs but by the horde of people smoking there; and some anti-smoker would come waltzing through and make comments about how disgusting the smell and habit were. Frankly... if that person got cancer from second-hand smoke they were getting EXACTLY what they deserved. If you don’t want to be exposed to it, stay the heck away. Virtually all WDW smoking areas are in out-of-the-way places where you would be there only BY CHOICE. You would not be casually walking through them on the way from one attraction to the next.
Originally Posted By TDLFAN >>Oh and you can spare the crap about everyone has vices. My vices won't kill your kids.<< But I am sure your smoking habit has already caused some damage to YOUR kids...they just don't know it yet.
Originally Posted By gmp919399 "But I am sure your smoking habit has already caused some damage to YOUR kids...they just don't know it yet." not all smokers smoke in there homes or around there kids I nor my husband has never once smoked in our home, in our car while our kids are riding with us( having leather seats in your vehicle helps for not having your vehicle smell like smoke) our non- smoking friends thought we didn't smoke in our cars because they never could smell it. I know that( our) smoking habits have not caused damage to our kids.I can think of other habits that have done damage to non-smokers kids. Maybe yopu should re examine yourself & look in the mirror before you start passing judgement on people that you don't even know.
Originally Posted By TDLFAN Everything I have said to you (and I don't regret one bit of it mind you) is because of my own experience with smoking relatives in my own family. My mother has suffered from severe sinuses due to the fact that her parents smoked all of the time. Your excuses about not smoking in the house or in your car are LAME to say the least and just poor ways to justify your filthy dirty habits. How dare you! put your children in a situation where they feel like they have to kiss an ashtray at night when they go to sleep?? SHAME! Seems to me it's you who need to take a good look at yourself and be a more responsible parent for the well being of your flock and stop making excuses for your addiction!
Originally Posted By gmp919399 Sorry to hear that about your Mom sounds like your grandmother didn't consider that affects of smoking in her home in front of her kids that too bad & very sad.You can't take what you have experienced & ASSUME all others will happen the same.I do take care of My children they are not animals so don't refer them to a flock!I am not making excuses for my habit I am stated facts! My habit will not effect my children's health cause fact ! says 2nd hand smoke will affect them & they are NOT! around 2nd hand smoke ever!! I would not allow anyone to smoke around my children ever unlike your grandmother your Mom is ill because of the fact that 2nd hand smoke affects non smokers & your Grandmother chose to smoke around her kids regardless. "Seems to me it's you who need to take a good look at yourself and be a more responsible parent " In regards to that pathetic statement you don't even know me.How much responsibility have you made for your childre? (if you have any? I have been a stay at home Mom to make sure I was there for my children with sacrificies of not keeping up with the Jones for toys but rather making sure my kids had a parent at all times when need be.Now we own ouyr own business have our kids in private schools prior to that home schooling them myself for 3 years because there school was failing them & at the same time running around making sure at that time that they had all resoyrses as possible & because of my responsibility & putting my family first we were blessed & now we can afford 3 kids in private school & who are exceedinly excelling in there studies because I wax respoinsible took a stand for my kids needs & was not going to watch them fail like other kids in our neighborhood whos parents chose to ignore what they were seeing & now most of those kids are failing in trouble etc. While my kids are happy, intelligent, responsible, loving, caring,respectful,honoring,selfless, etc. because I was responsible as a parent since the day they were born ( & yes! I quit three times smoking because I never smoked while being pregnant) I can go on & on.You need to learn to not take your situation & see dirt in others because of what you have seen.When you have no clue!When all around was saying how dare I not work & make my husband work as if I was a terrible parent for not wanting the almighty dollar.Being happily married for 15 years & seeing other families who were so call responsible families fall apart.Now I am a business owner along side with husband & very successful.
Originally Posted By TDLFAN Well GOOD FOR YOU! ...And no, I don't have kids because the moral majority makes it very hard for me and my MAN to adopt them. Does a dog count?
Originally Posted By TDLFAN However, bottom line is.. you still smoke regardless of how many times you quit. Seems to me you need to take as good care of yourself as you have for your kids, and I have no problem saying this to anyone.
Originally Posted By gmp919399 TDFLAN You are absolutely right!! I have cut down extremely but I know that I do have to quit =) For my kids & myself Take care =)
Originally Posted By Goofyernmost I hope all of you soapbox evangelistic purveyors of the evil of smoke, walked to the parks because the damage you have done to kids and adults by spewing carbon monoxide in the air is devastating. Don't just pick and choose your targeted health hazards based on what your needs allow. And all of you that apparently don't smoke or drink or have ever driven a motor vehicle after a couple "little ones", well, my hat's off to you. Not a single personal habit or action that potentially could have caused harm to another. Wow! I am an X-smoker. Smoked for 40 years and I will tell you that it stops becoming a chosen habit and becomes an addiction, both physically and emotionally. It is easy for those that were fortunate enough to have never gotten drawn into it to look with disdain on a smoker and, from that high and mighty perch, look down on the lowliest of lows. I get angry when I see someone smoking just wherever they choose and couldn't care less about anyone else, but those that make the extra effort to go the designated area and try to not expose you should be thanked instead of put down. 2nd hand smoke, in the outdoors, away from the masses holds about the same risk to passers by as the odds you will get hit by lighting three times in one day. Let's avoid our modernistic over reactive view point designed to create a sense of urgency where none exists. Go after, aggressively, those that choose to ignore rules and leave the considerate ones alone.
Originally Posted By TDLFAN You know...this is particularly a touchy topic for me... I have lost 4 relatives due to tabacco smoke. My mother told my father 40 some years ago that if he didn't stop smoking, she would not marry him. It must have been love because he did stop and never smoked again. My partner's parents both died of lung cancer due to smoking and his two siblings didn't learn from that at all and are heavy smokers as well. If I get personal and throw tantrums is because it infuriates me that people still can't get a grasp on this issue and do their best to avoid falling into this cigarette habit. Regardless of how good we are to our loved ones and how much we provide for their well being, the point is mute to me when I see that total lack of care for one's personal health in regards to smoking. IF my mother or father were smokers, I would have to express my disappointment, regardless of how much they had provided for me in the past. It's a health issue, not love.
Originally Posted By TDLFAN >>Go after, aggressively, those that choose to ignore rules and leave the considerate ones alone<< I can live with that, but don't ask me to look the other way when the considerate one happens to be someone I love or care for.
