Originally Posted By Erjontem Most importantly, it had the largest budget of any animated film ever made, and its worldwide gross has been more than DOUBLE that!
Originally Posted By cheesybaby ^^About the budget - the version of Tangled you saw did not eat up all of that $260 million budget. That figure also includes the 2 (or more?) previous iterations that were completely scrapped. This movie had an unusually long gestation under different management regimes (and directors), so that budget figure includes everything. That is the only reason why it has the highest animated budget of all time. The version of Tangled we saw on the screen did not cost $260 million in production costs.
Originally Posted By skinnerbox Exactly, cheesy. Not to mention that Tangled is only barely above double that mark, at $522.3 mil. Twice the budget of $260 mil is $520 mil, so $2.3 mil additional is not that big of a deal. Wait until March when Tangled is released in Japan, which should give the worldwide box a nice little bump. In terms of box office success, Tangled isn't really a success, since those development costs have devoured any solid profit the film could earn from its theatrical run. It's more than likely the film still hasn't recouped its production, distribution, and advertising costs from ticket sales, but most likely will after it opens in Japan. But in terms of aftermarket merchandise sales, Tangled is a hit. Toy sales are excellent, and DVD pre-orders are through the roof. When viewed through this lens, as with Pixar's Cars franchise, Tangled is definitely a success.
Originally Posted By CuriouserConstance Why do they stagger movie releases world wide like that? Why not all at once?
Originally Posted By cheesybaby <<Why do they stagger movie releases world wide like that? Why not all at once?>> To strategize timing with local holidays in each country, to strategize competition with other local-market movies coming out in each country, etc. In any given country, U.S. films are only some of the movies playing in theaters - a good portion of the movies playing are local and/or non-English-language films. Tangled opened in November in the U.S., but were there local family movies already playing in Germany in November that would have provided too much competition? How about in Latvia? Christmas is one of the best times to release a family movie in the U.S. (kids are out of school), but is there a smarter time to release one in Lithuania? What is the most profitable movie season in Ukraine? Maybe the Ghana market has only enough capacity for one family movie at a time, and Megamind already had a good number of screens? You and I don't know any of this, but for Disney's international distribution arm, it's their job to know - and to get every cent possible from the marketplace in each country. Tangled has been/will be released in at least 58 foreign markets. Japan appears to be the last major market for Tangled to be released in, on March 12.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo It did leave me scratching my head about Tangled's release date in the UK. It was released between school breaks, not smart IMHO and at the same time as Gnomeo and Juliette. Disney are about the only company that do this anymore. Most movines are released at the same time in the US and UK (the first I remember doing this was Back to the Future II - before that there could be a 6-9month time lag - I remember watching Batman, Micheal Keaton's version, on a US airforce base so I could see it 6 months before the rest of the UK). rediculous in this day and age. Princess and the Frog was watched by a friend of mine on the internet because he didn't want to wait. And I bought an American DVD of Country Bears 2 weeks before it came out in the cinema here. Crazy.
Originally Posted By cheesybaby <<Disney are about the only company that do this anymore.>> I strongly disagree. I picked 2 very successful 2010 movies at random and here's what I found: Shrek 4, released by Paramount/DW. Released May 2010 in the U.S., December 2010 in UK, not even until January 2011 in Japan! <a href="http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=intl&id=shrek4.htm" target="_blank">http://www.boxofficemojo.com/m...rek4.htm</a> And Inception, released by WP. July 2010 in the U.S., October/November for most of the world, and December 2010 in the UK: <a href="http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=intl&id=inception.htm" target="_blank">http://www.boxofficemojo.com/m...tion.htm</a> If you look at the links, release dates are all over the place for each. It is industry standard practice, not a primarily Disney thing. Are some movies released "day-and-date" in all international markets? Yes, some are. But it is not the norm.
Originally Posted By cheesybaby ^^Okay, so I goofed and read the tables wrong for those links. I stand corrected.
Originally Posted By cheesybaby ^^Although Shrek wasn't released until December in Japan, 7 months after the U.S. I guess Japan's animation industry makes it the market to force Hollywood to do the most juggling with animated release dates there.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo It used to very much be the norm, but not so much now. What is annoying is when a non english speaking country gets a Disney release before the UK, after all they have to subtitle or dub. Poor austria though, they only got Tron a few weeks ago, and are still awaiting many others.
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORWEN: So, davewasbaloo, duckling!! Did you manage to go out and buy all the Rapunzel merchandise you could find--like I did? I mean, you gotta admit the Rapunzel wig, alone, was worth spending a fortune on. Then there's that beautiful purple costume of hers. And I'm sure you would have wanted to buy the dolls, pvc figures, the plush they had for Maximus and Pascal. I already have all those things and more! Bet you've either already got 'em, too, or you're saving up for 'em, at least! And what did you think of the movie, itself? I keep conjuring it up inside my crystal ball all the time! Do you identify with Flynn the most? (I know a certain nasty old biddy who identifies mostly with Mother Gothel!)
Originally Posted By u k fan Regarding movie release dates apparently we're getting the Pooh movie months before the US so I think it just depends on what they have available to fill a particular slot in a particular country. I think the last time a Disney animated film was released in line with the US was Hunchback which got a July release, the movies surrounding that all generally got an October release in the UK as there's a school holiday in that month and less competition. In a strange release slot Tangled actually did very well and was the number 1 movie for a few weeks against stiff competition from The King's Speech and Black Swan. I'm most upset about having to wait until next year for The Muppets to be released. I've never illegally downloaded a movie and don't intend to start, but it'll be hard not to. I think I may hop over to France as it's released there in December!!!
