Originally Posted By Lee hisownself >>and my reply to that would have been...What? Never heard of it.<< That would have been an acceptable response. Nothing wrong with not knowing something, but to blindly (and falsely) acknowledge something that isn't true like those...um...tweeters did is just silly. The whole idea that an official WDW information stream can have completely wrong information about it's parks really throws me. I suppose next they will ask if we remember riding the Flying Saucers at Magic Kingdom. Yes, Spirit, I know I shouldn't be surprised... ~GFC~
Originally Posted By ReelJustice ^^the part that makes it really funny is that there was a Videopolis in Pleasure Island, and you know they didn't want to bring that up.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>I suppose next they will ask if we remember riding the Flying Saucers at Magic Kingdom.<<<< I distinctly remember riding Western River Expedition and Journeys in Space. ...sigh
Originally Posted By leobloom >> The whole idea that an official WDW information stream can have completely wrong information about it's parks really throws me. << I find that incredible, too. But that vacationing blogger who was allegedly working for the Mouse also tweeted that Space Mountain goes 45 mph. But what is accuracy when everything regardless of quality is inevitably covered with pixie dust?
Originally Posted By lazyboy97o <<Disney, as much as they talk about nostalgia, isn't about it. Or yours, anyway. It's about the THEME of a simpler time or era. Not YOUR nostalgia for the place.>> It was not, but it seems we will be getting an entire park almost built around this with the crown jewel being a statue of a farm boy newly arrived from Kansas City. It just further shows how much the Company has no faith in parks as a truly viable medium of content and product creation. This is also why I hate it when people talk about redesigning an area (common places include the Transportation and Ticket Center and the Disneyland Hotel) into being something Victorian. Disney has established a Victorian design that invokes images not of the Victorian Era but of Disney via Main Street, USA. Somehow this easy means of establishing the parks has permeated not just The Walt Disney Company (there is an interview clip in "Waking Sleeping Beauty" where even Roy E. Disney comments on animation being the source of "Disney" and the parks following it) but almost the entire themed entertainment industry. Intellectual property and nostalgia has become the go to basis for much what is new. It is also why, despite how great it is, I am a little sad at the though of the Wizard World of Harry Potter taking over more of Lost Continent, the one land not tied to a specific franchise.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer ^ I agree very, very much. Disney needs to have less synergy and more originality.
Originally Posted By wmax3234 <a href="http://www.stitchkingdom.com/disney-secret-agent-x-online-community-17234/" target="_blank">http://www.stitchkingdom.com/d...y-17234/</a>
Originally Posted By WDWFigment Not directly related to this topic, but thought some of you might find this interesting: <a href="http://techcrunch.com/2011/07/30/humbug/" target="_blank">http://techcrunch.com/2011/07/30/humbug/</a>
Originally Posted By ReelJustice <<<a href="http://www.stitchkingdom.com/d...y-17234/>>" target="_blank">http://www.stitchkingdom.com/d...>></a> Sounds alot like Disney's answer to Pottermore...except in this case, there's no new content being offered. Although, they'll probably throw out lots of beautiful concept art that'll never be built. Just one more step towards "controlling the message."
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<<a href="http://techcrunch.com/2011/07/30/humbug/>>" target="_blank">http://techcrunch.com/2011/07/...>></a> Kinda amusing read ... this point is what I keep hammering home, though: <<but every so often we are reminded of the grimy truth: making money with online content is a question of attracting millions of eyeballs, whatever the moral cost.>> ~GFC~
Originally Posted By PotNoodle Mc Donald's is doing this, too, by gettin' cozy with the Mommy *gag* Bloggers. <a href="http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2011/07/27/138746335/mcdonalds-courts-mom-bloggers-when-changing-the-menu?sc=17&f=" target="_blank">http://www.npr.org/blogs/healt...sc=17&f=</a>
Originally Posted By ReelJustice Update: representatives of the division responsible for creating and building attractions(formerly known as WED Enterprises) have infiltrated Twitter and certain discussion boards and are 'interacting' with fans.
Originally Posted By aquamoptop Well, this has been an interesting discussion. After this past D23 event, there seems to be a lot of backlash against Social Media, Disney Podcasters and Bloggers because of how horrendous the lines at the Expo were and how so many fans did not get to see any presentations at all. Many podcasters and bloggers have basically gloated about how great the presentations were and how they would not have even seen them, had it not been for their press passes. I dont want to name the podcasters but obviously, your all aware of at least one. The backlash on facebook and twitter towards a particular podcaster for not talking about the negative side of D23 was so bad that on his last podcast he addressed it. It was brutal on Facebook and it does seem fans are "turning" on them a bit. I did not go to D23 so this didnt effect me directly, however, I am noticing a growing amount of disdain for why Tom Podcaster gets press passes and front of the line access to these events when they are just a fan with a website.
Originally Posted By Bolna aquamoptop, what you say about D23 is interesting. I have been wondering when the "market" for Disney bloggers/podcasters/etc. would be "saturated" - it sounds that in a way that point has been reached. So what will happen now? I guess Disney will at some point become more selective again about whom they are going to invite. And then what will the reaction be? The funny thing is that I remember that several years ago when I started to listen to Disney podcasts someone mentioned how it seems like everyone is starting a podcast and that at some point in time, only a few podcasts will survive, while the smaller ones will disappear... So far that hasn't happened! I am sure there are far more podcasts around now then there were 5 years ago!
Originally Posted By Bolna I missed this link when it was originally posted: >>Not directly related to this topic, but thought some of you might find this interesting: <a href="http://techcrunch.com/2011/07/30/humbug/>>" target="_blank">http://techcrunch.com/2011/07/...>></a> Very interesting and very fitting, the thing that bothered me the most was the following: <<Meanwhile, behind the scenes, we also know for sure that investors in the company leaned on publications like TechCrunch to stop reporting the story. Their ludicrous wail of protest: AIRBNB IS RUN BY NICE GUYS! IT’S NOT FAIR TO CALL THEM OUT WHEN THEY SCREW UP!>> Maybe not that unrelated to the topic here...
Originally Posted By aquamoptop Bolna - I remember that I used to listen to at least 10 disney podcasts a week. Then as time went on, I started getting annoyed that I was hearing the same things on each one and so I dropped many of them and am now down to 4. I am really surprised that it has not happened, that people havent just chosen a few and that there hasnt been a decrease in disney podcasts. I think that there would be a decrease if disney were not to cater so much to podcasters. Its preaching to the choir and I do think that Spirit has good points here.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros Speaking of which, it looks like there's (finally) a new LP Podcast up! Can't wait to take a listen. It's the only one that I listen to, since it manages to get a good balance between news, discussion, and great personalities to boot!
Originally Posted By MousDad >>Many podcasters and bloggers have basically gloated about how great the presentations were and how they would not have even seen them, had it not been for their press passes. << And so with this, D23 has reached the pinnacle of its failure, it appears to me.
