Originally Posted By skinnerbox TS nailed it. Lies lies and more lies. "If you can't dazzle 'em with brilliance, baffle 'em with bullsh*t." And I saw the protesters outside Whole Foods about an hour ago. Everyone going in and out of the store was totally ignoring them. Gee I wonder why? 8^) Still waiting for that GLOBAL LIFE EXPECTANCY INDEX, DB.
Originally Posted By Mr X "And now for your extended forcast, we bring you live to Hell...Hell, what's the weather looking like?" "Thanks, Tom. Well we're looking at some hot, sweltering and extremely muggy and painful conditions for the forseable future. Absolutely no chance of frost. I repeat, Hell will *not* be freezing over anytime soon. Tom, back to you." "Thanks! Next in our "offbeat" segment, we take an amusing peek at the efforts of naive internet poster "skinnerbox", who is laughably awaiting a legitimate reply from the infamous Darkbeer! Some people just will never learn. *chuckles*"
Originally Posted By Dabob2 The WSJ editorial page, not surprisingly, gets it exactly wrong in those DB copy and paste jobs. For example, in #74, it claims she insinuates the people showing up to protest are Nazis. Read in context, she clearly is complaining that they are trying to compare Obama to the Nazis. Considering how many right wong websites and popular pundits have done so, it's the only logical way to read her comments. Yet the WSJ and Limbaugh try to make it about her and say she owes the public an apology. The thing is, both Limbaugh and the WSJ editorial board are smart enough to know what she meant. Yet they pretend not to in a cynical ploy to divert attention away from the actual issues. And then some people just copy and paste their tripe as though it wre thoughtful and reasoned discussion, rather than the cynical talking points it is.
Originally Posted By ecdc >>Still waiting for that GLOBAL LIFE EXPECTANCY INDEX, DB.<< I think you'll be waiting a while. Almost every single one of the statistics he quotes, misses the point entirely. Take cancer survival rates. Yes, it's true, if you get cancer in the United States, your chances of survival are usually better. But, since you live in the United States, your chances of getting cancer in the first place are much, much greater. The preventative medicine of nations with universal healthcare is almost always much, much better. But the Darkbeer Link-O-Matic machine failed to point that out.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Ok, Darkbeer at least gave some evidence of concern about healthcare issues in the UK vs the US, and for that I applaud him, this is the first tangible response I have had from an opponant of the bill. But like all statistics, there are some other factors for consideration. First, given a lot of the experiences of the industrial revolution, the bombings of WWII during the blitz (which no one in the US would understand what that was like, there are some awesome museums here that recreate it, and make me even more respectful of the BRitish people and their tenacity during the war), and the fact that twice as many people live on the island the size of the state of California, Cancer prevelence rates are higher due to genetics and environment. Also, add to the fact that the stiff upper lip British man does not feel comfortable with the prostate exam, so they as an individual leaves it too late. I am really mad at my step dad right now because istead of getting himself sorted (he is having problems right now, with hich cancer prevelence rates in his family), he ignores it despite the doctors asking him to go back. So there are some culture elemeents. But the use of asbestos, and the war time experience, mean a lot of older people who were alive then are dying from it. The US only had Pearl Harbor to contend with. That makes a big difference that these stats dn't show. And for what it's worth. When my dad 1st did contact the Dr., he had an appointment the next day, and a hospital appointment for tests within 3 working days. It was my dad who bailed out. In my experience, that is pretty comparable with timelines for the US.
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt "Hans, which one of the stores was it?" The one on Rhode Island and 17th.
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt Well the Health Care debate doesn't get more ironic than this story. Apparently an uninsured conservative Town Hall activist who was recently injured in a confrontation in St. Louis is asking for donations for his medical bills. <a href="http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2009_08/019423.php" target="_blank">http://www.washingtonmonthly.c...9423.php</a>
Originally Posted By gadzuux >> The one on Rhode Island and 17th. << I think we might be neighbors! I'm at the end of Connecticut St near 20th. Are you on Potrero Hill, Hans?
Originally Posted By skinnerbox <<I'm at the end of Connecticut St near 20th.>> Wow gadzuux. I had no idea you were on Potrero. I live in Mission Bay.
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt "Are you on Potrero Hill, Hans?" Pretty much. I just moved into the condo complex above Whole Foods from Nob Hill.
Originally Posted By skinnerbox <<I just moved into the condo complex above Whole Foods from Nob Hill.>> How do you like it, Hans? We looked into that place, but chose something near the ballpark instead. I've often wondered about the units directly above the parking garage entrances and the "car coming" alarm, if you could hear it. That obnoxious noise would drive me dippy.
Originally Posted By TomSawyer I think I lost track of this thread. Hitler is still alive and lives in some condos above a Whole Foods?
