Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 What's truly a shame is that it is worlds easier to get Disey fans all foamed up over the thought that some people might be pilfering carbonated beverage than over the general WalMarting of WDW.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 Hard enough to fight Disney mgmt...don't want to have to overcome thievery from guests also - or anything that would give mgmt and excuse for not showing us more improvements. I get upset about both, I have enough anger to go around I guess.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 I know this isn't an excuse, VBDAD, but I wouldn't doubt that plenty of the 'alleged' thieves do what they do because they feel a constant nickel and diming at WDW that once didn't exist. Again, not an excuse but an explanation. And when the MK is turning into a dirty, generic Disney's Magic Character Park, I find that worth a whole lot more attention than the thought that somebody who's paying $300 a night and $50 for a family of four to have burgers and fries might be taking soda ... I just don't again see why one makes so many people so angry and the other elicits a ho-hum recation from many of Disney's 'fans.'
Originally Posted By vbdad55 ^^^^^^^^^^ likely because that behavior has become pervasive in our everyday lives as well as at WDW............. so as I agree the WalMarting of WDW continues, the breakdown of ethics in the country continues also, and I see the soda theivery as just another blatant excuse by some to justify the ends. Hope that makes sense
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo It does make sense. The two go hand in hand. Why is Walmart popular - it is cheap and benefits me, can translate to, "I'm taking some Soda, afterall Disney charges enough". Some people sadly see cost and the value of nothing. Very sad.
Originally Posted By NikkiLOVESMickey <<likely because that behavior has become pervasive in our everyday lives as well as at WDW............. so as I agree the WalMarting of WDW continues, the breakdown of ethics in the country continues also, and I see the soda theivery as just another blatant excuse by some to justify the ends.>> You took the words right out of my mouth, vbdad. While I don't like what's happening to WDW, it's confined to one company, one aspect of my life. Soft drink swipers are just a symptom of a more pervasive problem that is negatively affecting society as a whole.
Originally Posted By bobbelee9 According to this morning's paper, customers and employees of WalMart are stealing, and it's big items. My daughter use to be a manager for PaylessShoes, people tried to shoplift like crazy, and my crazy daughter challenged them.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> ^^And Disney fans too! << That brought tears to my eyes from laughter. Thank you for that Magical Moment Spirit!
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <According to this morning's paper, customers and employees of WalMart are stealing, and it's big items. My daughter use to be a manager for PaylessShoes, people tried to shoplift like crazy, and my crazy daughter challenged them< I am sure some will say well WalMart is the largest corporation in the US -- I work there for less than I should, so they can afford for me to take a little here and there...it's really sad.
Originally Posted By Skellington88 I will take full advantage of free refills for life until Disney stops walmarting WDW how about that? When MK gets a good cleaning, rides get up to Anahiem and Tokyo standards and we get an E-ticket I will drop my vendetta and purchase a new mug every trip When Epcot returns to its pre-millenium village image complete with wandless sphere, removal of the leave a legacy graveyard, retooling of imagination, and replacements for UOE and WOL with attractions that fit into the science and discovery park I will drop my vendetta and buy a mug every trip.
Originally Posted By MPierce You really ought to give it up Skellington, unless your just a glutton for punishment. You are way in over your head with the people you are attempting to debate with.
Originally Posted By danyoung So, Skellington, your habit of stealing from Disney is based on your need to reshape the company into your idea of perfection? Interesting sophistry there, dude. Perhaps I can start stealing from my employer until they start giving me 2 months off each year and raising my pay to six figures. Hmmm, you may be on to something there . . .
Originally Posted By vbdad55 ^^^^^^^^^^^^ yep, and start stealing everything that isn't nailed down from the local Shell or BP or Mobil next visit there until they return $1.00 / gallon gasoline and $10 oil changes. ---- the logic becomes more unrealistic each time
Originally Posted By trekkeruss No sense even debating the issue with skellington. While you can plainly see the illogic in his thinking, he can't, or won't.
Originally Posted By Labuda But, Russ - doesn't it make sense to you that in order to get a company to improve its product you should steal from them? I mean, the more you steal, the more money they have to spend, right?
Originally Posted By Skellington88 Disney themselves told me it was ok so im gonna keep guzzling soda. That policy is old and uninforced. On top of that its very amusing (and sad really) to see a bunch of grown men on a disney message board freaking out over a kid taking advantage of free refills.
Originally Posted By danyoung Without wanting to reread the entire thread, does your mug say "good until the end of your stay"? If so, then you're stealing. If not, and if Disney employees have told you to go ahead, then you're fine.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <Disney themselves told me it was ok so im gonna keep guzzling soda. That policy is old and uninforced. On top of that its very amusing (and sad really) to see a bunch of grown men on a disney message board freaking out over a kid taking advantage of free refills. < even funnier to think we are reading a kid tell us how he knows so much more about the world then we do -- someday you'll grow up and realize what you are saying, until that day just be glad you are not one of our children, the conversation would be a little more direct -- btw - not all the posters here correcting you are men, but of course, since you know everything, you also knew that
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< Disney themselves told me it was ok so im gonna keep guzzling soda. >>> Which is it? Your story keeps changing. Now it's back to "Disney told me it's okay." A few posts ago, you were justifying taking it on your own based on it "not costing them very much" and the fact that you "paid a lot of money" to stay there. Why were those justifications even relevant if you thought that free refills (of newer mugs brought back from a previous stay) were the actual policy?
