Originally Posted By leemac <<This has happened to me at least 5-8 times at TDR only. ..And my very expensive premium AP to TDR is no help in allowing me entry into the parks if the gates are closed by the time I arrive. >> TDLFAN, can I ask when you were last locked out? I can't remember the last time I heard TDL reaching capacity but I know you have been visiting for many years. Also, (again if it isn't too personal), can I ask why you didn't buy the two park AP as it guarantees entry? I have a two-parker but it is mainly because I'm worried about anniversaries. I've a feeling that TDS might get a close-out on September 4 this year.
Originally Posted By Mr X I'd like an explaination as to why my post was erased? I did NOT violate the community standards, and my opinions, as stated before, are just as valid as those who say they hate Muslims or French people or whoever on these forums often. In fact, MORE valid since I pointed out many specific examples. So, I guess cause someone wants to complain, that makes it okay to go ahead and erase whatever "offensive" opinions there might be? Not cool.
Originally Posted By leemac X, the moderators work very hard to maintain the community standards of the LP message boards, know the standards intimately and do not have to explain their actions to anyone at any time. Continuing to complain about our standards is not cool either.
Originally Posted By leemac Back on subject, serious questions need to be raised about how this was handled. WDP&R deliberately hired locals for Publicity, Public Relations and Sales & Marketing. All three dropped the ball. How on earth did they not consider the longer holiday for mainlanders. I really find it incredulous. This is a serious misstep and they will have to work hard to erase those images from guests' mind. My God, it was even reported on Page 5 of the New York Times today so if it is making news on the other side of the world I dread to think what it is doing in HK and China.
Originally Posted By gardabble Leemac, I suspect we'll see more missteps in HKDL until they collect enough data. Right now the park hasn't opened a full year so Disney is still figuring the busy and the non-peak times of the year.
Originally Posted By TDLFAN >>TDLFAN, can I ask when you were last locked out?<< Lee, if I am not mistaken it was shortly after the 20th anniversary day (remember that lovely rainy with LindsayC's 'sick-as-a-puppy' eyes staring at me in the Plaza Restaurant?) during Golden week.. I arrived at the park at around 2pm and had to wait until about 3pm to enter... >>(again if it isn't too personal), can I ask why you didn't buy the two park AP as it guarantees entry?<< Not sure if by "two-parker" you mean.. the premium hopper pass for both parks. That is the one I have...Premium AP, the most expensive one out there..69,000yen. Is that what you have as well?? I love the hopping convenience it offers, but still the 2-park PAP do not garranty admission into the parks if either one closes and you arrived late. However, if you made it into the park, then the park closes... you *need* the handstamp in order to be re-admitted with your PAP during the times when the park is temporarily closed. That is my understanding...
Originally Posted By leemac No, I have two single APs. Those guarantee you entrance into the park on any day. It is a pain having to carry around both though. I wish they could have just encoded the information into one pass.
Originally Posted By leemac I try to forget about the 20th. Ghastly weather and Lindsay being rushed to hospital. It wasn't one of the finer days at a Disney park. Thankfully I had friends to keep me company the rest of the day.
Originally Posted By Mr X I think it's rather weak that they put "limitations" on the two park pass. I mean really...these people (like TDLFAN) are shelling out a whole CHUNK of cash for their two park pass...NEARLY as much as for two single passes. Why "dis" those people? And, like you said Lee, that motivates SOME to buy two single passes (as you did), which makes me think they are just money grubbing for a few extra measly dollars (yen) in order to offer something "more" to those dedicated enough to go for BOTH passes instead of the "two park" pass (at practically the same money!).
Originally Posted By leemac ^^ True. I wish it was only a few yen. I think the difference is 11,000 yen at the moment. I must admit I don't know why they had to issue two different types.
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< I suspect we'll see more missteps in HKDL until they collect enough data. Right now the park hasn't opened a full year so Disney is still figuring the busy and the non-peak times of the year. >>> But that doesn't explain why they had to remove the ability to buy date-certain tickets for most days of the year, even if they also wanted to add open ticketing. Date-certain was the only system they had prior to January 3, so obviously all of the infrastructure was in place to do so. This would have covered the situation as happened last week when they had an unexpectedly large attendance. In fact, it would have tipped them off in advance that this was going to happen.
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< No, I have two single APs. Those guarantee you entrance into the park on any day. >>> I ever-so-briefly considered this, but then quickly realized that any day that's "sold out" such that a 2-park pass won't work is probably one that I don't want to be in that park in the first place. I like the special events and all, but don't need to see them on the first day. After being at DL for July 17 2005, I think any other particular anniversary date at a Disney park would be anti-climatic.
Originally Posted By TDLFAN >>I wish they could have just encoded the information into one pass.<< Isn't that what the PAP is ??? But honestly.. I didn't buy the park-specific types because I wanted to be able to hop at will. >>I try to forget about the 20th. Ghastly weather and Lindsay being rushed to hospital. It wasn't one of the finer days at a Disney park. Thankfully I had friends to keep me company the rest of the day.<< It must have been pretty scary, and you may not believe this but, I would have offered my help to you and Lindsay in any way if I had known the severity of LindsayC illness. Problem was..I had to go back to work that afternoon...reason why I left the park by noon. Funny... even the 15th anniversary was a stormy rainy day as well..
Originally Posted By leemac ^^ I do believe it. It did come on pretty suddenly. Luckily we had one of our Japanese friends with us to deal with the language (my medical Japanese is not too hot) issues. Yup and September 4 2001 wasn't that great either. We don't seem to have much luck when it comes to TDR weather. There for 5 days last June and had a typhoon and earthquake within days.
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< Isn't that what the PAP is ??? But honestly.. I didn't buy the park-specific types because I wanted to be able to hop at will. >>> My understanding is that the single-park APs give better access to the parks than the 2-park APs do. If a particular park is "sold out" for the day, then you cannot enter with a 2-park AP (but are welcome to go to the other park unless it also is "sold out"). Of course, even a single-park AP will not grant access if the park is totally full (what we might call being at the fire marshal occupancy limit in the US), but that may happen infrequently at TDR if they manage ticket sales properly. If you have a one-park AP for each park, then you can visit both parks on the same day, even if one or both is "sold out." I guess this is not considered park-hopping in the traditional sense since you are using two separate tickets (and will generate two turnstile clicks on the annual attendance figures instead of one). In any event, paying the extra 11,000 yen (US$100) gives you an extra level of access to the parks on a "sold out" day. I have personally seen a local with this sort of setup, and it would not surprise me if the hardcore locals that are "always" in the parks go this route.
Originally Posted By TDLFAN Well.. I usually go when I am in Japan which is monthly, so I have to deal with those pesky quakes and ever changing weather patterns. When I have gone to TDR on vacation with G-Fan... seems like we have 1-2 great sunny days, and 1-2 miserably wet ones.. Never fails.
Originally Posted By SuperDry TDLFAN, I can't believe that you're posting here on LP at a moment like this - isn't it almost kick-off time for the Super Bowl? What kind of person would be spending time on LP at such a moment?
Originally Posted By TDLFAN The Super what??? I am bored to death here...and G-Fan is playing his Godzilla X-Box game at the moment.. It's a cool night so.. we were thinking about going to DTD for a stroll and window shopping for the evening.
Originally Posted By leemac SuperDry, I believe that my single park passes actually guarantee entrance, period. That is what it says on the back (I guess that could be caveated somewhere else though). TDLFAN at least you are at home. I'm stuck at awful LaGuardia waiting for a flight to Dulles. Going to miss the start of the Super Bowl now. :-(((
