Originally Posted By Dabob2 Yeah, I loved THAT kbf as well. A lot. The current version, sadly, has lost a lot of what made KBF great. Some charm remains, but much has dissipated.
Originally Posted By tashajilek "By the way, Tasha, this is what you would see if you were facing RRC and turned around:" Looks a little better turned around. Well if it were supposed to look like a backlot scene i kind of get it now. I would still love to vist DLP even if it is completly diffrent then DLR. The last 3 times i went to Knotts exculding the haunt, it felt like it really was a ghost town. I remember KBF about 13 years ago and it really shocked me going back to find it was nothing like it used to be.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "I would still love to vist DLP even if it is completly diffrent then DLR." Overall I would say the place is awesome. I've been several times and I really love the place. I can't say that about Knott's though. I always felt, even back in the 70s, that Knott's just too homespun for me. I haven't been since the early 80s. I probably wouldn't recognize it now.
Originally Posted By Ohana A few reasons to visit Knott's 1. Boysenberry punch 2. Ghostrider 3. Ghost Town theming and shops 4. Mrs. Knott's restaurant 2 of these can be done without entering the park. Is the rest worth it to you? Only you can answer that.
Originally Posted By friendofdd Every year DW and I go to the Christmas Craft Fair held in the ghost town section. I look over at the train, attend two shows at The Birdcage Theater, shop for crafts and have some snacks. Wandering through ghost town, I feel great nostalgia for the KBF of my childhood. Then, after the holidays, I see the ads for a KBF annual pass for $59.95 and wonder whether I should get one. It is a terrific price. However, when I consider I never really feel any urge to go there, I decide I'll just wait till the holidays and go to the craft fair for $4.00 senior.
Originally Posted By TP2000 I do like the Knott's Boysenberry Preserves you can buy at the grocery store. I recently bought the Pavilions store brand boysenberry preserves, and it wasn't nearly as good. I threw that jar away and bought a jar of the Knott's, even though it's about $1.50 more per jar. That and Mystery Lodge are about all that's left of my interest in Knott's Berry Farm. I remember seeing Mystery Lodge when it was the signature attraction of the GM Pavilion at the 1986 World's Fair up in Vancouver. It was amazing then, and is still quite an impressive show. The Indian tribes of the Pacific Northwest have always been an interest to me, and this show is just magnificent. If they ever get rid of it, I won't need to return to Knott's again. Ever.
Originally Posted By tashajilek I have a annual pass basically for Ghostrider. Keep in mind i bought the pass without visitng KBF for 12-13years. I guess i got my moneys worth i have used my pass 3x. The Haunt was excellent and in the future i may leave it to only doing the Haunt. I feel strongly about USH also being a waste of money. I cant justify paying $70 or whatever it is to ride 3 rides.
Originally Posted By trekkeruss Boy, you know I haven't been to Knott's in a long time. I said earlier I recall the Mystery Lodge, but I was confusing the name with the Haunted Shack. I've never been in the Mystery Lodge...and I'm sad that I now remember that the Haunted Shack was torn down years ago.
Originally Posted By walt100 I'm always surprised when people (usually young adults who prefer Magic mountain)say that Disneyland is only for kids. Well, first off, what's wrong with acting like a kid for a day? What harm does it do? As if a teenager wearing a pair of goofy ears is going to be ridiculed. I've had this argument with the MM fans before. What would make Magic mountain more adult? Why is screaming your head off on the Batman coaster a more mature act than riding POTC? Second, most of those same people will some day have kids, and the first place they're going to be taken is Disneyland,not Knotts or Magic Mountain. Lastly, while I do have some fond memories of Old school Knotts, there are many reasons why Disneyland gets Quadruple the number of guests year after year...Best regards to all...Walt100
Originally Posted By tashajilek Im really suprised that a lot of people havent been in KBF in years. I think it is worth a visit if you havent been in years, It would be interesting to hear what some of the lp veterans have to say.
Originally Posted By trekkeruss A big reason why I haven't been back is that unlike when I was little, I visit SoCal not to sightsee, but to visit family. DLR is a day trip (from Oceanside.) I never really consider making two trips to Anaheim, one for DLR and another for KBF, nor do I ever contemplate staying in a cheap motel to do both. I can't imagine choosing KBF over DL either.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "I remember seeing Mystery Lodge when it was the signature attraction of the GM Pavilion at the 1986 World's Fair up in Vancouver." Me too! I had no idea that it ended up at Knott's.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "Well, first off, what's wrong with acting like a kid for a day? What harm does it do? As if a teenager wearing a pair of goofy ears is going to be ridiculed." I know it's sometimes difficult for us to be objective because we have a fondness for DLR that not everyone else has, but in all fairness DL has tipped the scales too far in favor of preciousness in the past decade or so. There hasn't been much since ToT that would really be appealing to mature audiences visiting the place. I think Disney's focus on cutsy at the expense of appealing to all audiences is something that people are starting to notice, even those that are well beyond their teen years.
Originally Posted By TP2000 Yeah Hans, Knott's installed a one-theater version of the show in a Pacific Northwest themed corner of the park, near Bigfoot Rapids. (Instead of the mod and massive wedge shaped building the GM Pavilion was at Expo 86). Sadly, like so much at Knott's, the upkeep on the exterior of the Longhouse themed facility leaves a lot to be desired, and they aren't the best at managing the details of the pre-show and the employees running the thing. But once the lights dim and the show starts, it's a nice presentation unchanged from the fair. You exit towards a little themed gift shop selling Indian wares, instead of a big display of 1986 General Motors Canada cars and trucks. And you summed up the recent Disneyland trend perfectly with the word "preciousness". There have been a few glimmers of maturity with stuff like Space Mountain Ghost Galaxy and an expanded Food & Wine this year. But for the most part it's all been aimed at a mythical 6 year old girl living in the suburbs, while her brother gets a few crumbs of cheesy "Knight Training" thrown his way.
Originally Posted By tashajilek "But for the most part it's all been aimed at a mythical 6 year old girl living in the suburbs, while her brother gets a few crumbs of cheesy "Knight Training" thrown his way. " Hopefully car's land will change some of that. I really wish we would be getting something like Mystic point like HKD (Sighs) it sounds a lot more appealing to me the carsland. I know we have a HM but hey i wouldnt mind if there were 2.
Originally Posted By walt100 you're right that Disney may have put an over emphasis on the little ones the past several years, but going completely the other way as they did with DCA didn't work either. Trying to be "hip and edgy" doesn't work with Disney. Lets be honest here. Disney is square and people expect that. Also, places like Magic mountain, for all the good thrill rides they have, don't have much else. It's been forgotten that when MM opened it was a family park as well. But just from a security standpoint, if you only market to teenagers you're asking for a lot of trouble. I do hope however that they DL can get back to creating attractions for everyone and not just kids...Walt100
Originally Posted By CuriouserConstance I've never been to Knotts, but reading the posts, I think I'll give it a shot next time, just to experience it. I LOVE haunted house type things and I want to see what this Mystery Lodge and Ghost Town is all about. " I know it's sometimes difficult for us to be objective because we have a fondness for DLR that not everyone else has" Does anyone ever stop and wonder what it is about Disneyland or about us (people that like Disney and DL enough to come and discuss it every day on a forum) that makes us have such a fondness towards it? I think about that often, and it's a really odd thing to me. What is it about me or any of you that finds Disneyland so appealing?
Originally Posted By trekkeruss <<Does anyone ever stop and wonder what it is about Disneyland or about us (people that like Disney and DL enough to come and discuss it every day on a forum) that makes us have such a fondness towards it?>> Brainwashing. Walt Disney was a master at getting those of us who were around in his time to be excited for his creations. Nowadays, the Disney company carries on that tradition. Perhaps not at Walt's personal level, but they do know how to use nostalgia and play on people's emotions.
Originally Posted By tashajilek You know what Constance its almost creepy to think about how many hours and how many people discuss Disney. You are so right, there is no other Theme Park or franchise that have people talking so much. I think it's because we all have such fond memories of DL and any slight changes for the good or bad have us so intrigued. CC you should try knotts out at least once. You cant compare it to DL but it's still better then the average theme park.
Originally Posted By mousermerf For the record, as long as i can remember people have talked about Universal in Florida, but i only got into the online discussion thing when IOA opened so that may have been a turning point - all those people also talked about Disney. And as for Disney.. I primarily care about Epcot. I'm not alone. Strangely enough there are no sites where people talk exclusively about Epcot (I suppose Intercot is the closest because it's named after the park..) but you'll find lots and lots of Epcot uber-fans. As for why I like Epcot - I see it as a symbol of hope.
