Originally Posted By CuriouserConstance trekky, yes but only a select few care enough about Disney to go on a forum and discuss it every day. Most people like it or tolerate it in passing, but it never becomes an obsession or even a hobby like it is for so many of us. tasha, I will try it next time. I always hate tearing myself away from Disneyland, lol, but I'll do it to give it a try. mousermerf, I know you always talk about exclusively liking Epcot, and it's Epcot this or Epcot that. And everything else at Disneyland or the DLR or WDW s just crap. But you do come to an online forum and discuss plenty of things besides Epcot all day everyday, and I do hear you talking about all of the numerous times you go to the DLR or DCA or about having dinner at this restaurant or that at DL. And if you really do hate it and still frequent it as often as you do, you should seek a mental health professional.
Originally Posted By tashajilek "I do hear you talking about all of the numerous times you go to the DLR or DCA or about having dinner at this restaurant or that at Dl" Shes got you there.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "...you're right that Disney may have put an over emphasis on the little ones the past several years, but going completely the other way as they did with DCA didn't work either." It seemed to work with EPCOT and Disney/MGM Studios. DCA would have been fine if they had a better mix of offerings at the start. Just imagine if WOC had been there on opening day. "Perhaps not at Walt's personal level, but they do know how to use nostalgia and play on people's emotions." That's exactly it, and Disney has become very savvy at getting people to make an emotional commitment to their brand at a very early age. I've been a Disney customer since I was very young watching the Wonderful World of Disney on Sunday evenings. Other than Coca-Cola and maybe McDonald's and Starbucks, I can't think of many companies have that kind of brand loyalty.
Originally Posted By 999HAUNTS <I use to like Knott's as much as DL until the family sold it. It had a charm to it now they are ripping out what gave it that charm and turning it in to another MM. The only thing that keeps me coming back to Knott's is the Haunt.> I agree with this statement two thousand percent.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <I've never been to Knotts, but reading the posts, I think I'll give it a shot next time, just to experience it. I LOVE haunted house type things and I want to see what this Mystery Lodge and Ghost Town is all about. > Constance, KBF is worth a look, definitely. But don't think either Mystery Lodge or Ghost Town are "haunted house type things." The former is more about NW tribal mysticism, and the latter is a recreation of an old west ghost town, i.e. old wooden buildings with western stuff, not spooks. Now, if you visit in October for the Haunt, KBF is "haunted house type thing"-central, with lots of mazes and shows that are genuinely scary (or creepy, or gross -there are a lot of them and they aim for different things). But the rest of the year, no.
Originally Posted By believe "But for the most part it's all been aimed at a mythical 6 year old girl living in the suburbs, while her brother gets a few crumbs of cheesy "Knight Training" thrown his way. " How about Pixie Hallow - that was designed for all age groups and demographics. As a girl, who wouldn't want to meet Tinkerbell. But as a boy and man, who wouldn't want a hug from Tinkerbell and the rest of her skimpily clad friends - it's as fun as meeting the Budweiser Girls Magic Mt - haven't been there for 20 years. I'd like to go - as soon as I can before I CAN'T handle those rides anymore. It's kind of far though, compared to DL and KBF. KBF - still fun because they still have most of their classic attractions plus the extreme ones. And it's hard to beat the price.
Originally Posted By tashajilek Believe you have to go to MM. Look up the x2, i have never been on a rollercoaster as nuts as the x2. They actually do a good job with the music and a few effects.
Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA <The whole Roaring 20's area of Knott's when it first opened, complete with the charming "Knott's Bear-y Tales" dark ride was something really special and well done.> Totally agree, Kar2oonMan. We were there the year it opened, and thought it was pretty spectacular! <There were a series of little treasures in Knott's that became favorites, little hidden gems like the beating heart in the Boot Hill graveyard, the guy in jail that would talk to you and mysteriously knew your name!> That and the Haunted Shack, Bird Cage Theater and panning for gold -- very fun and unique at that time. <The combination of the smell of horses and leather and railroad grease and fried chicken and berry syrup on funnel cakes that somehow worked together to be a good combo.> I think it's must be railroad grease smell - very distinctive. And riding that mine train ride, and going into those claustrophobic caves, and the smell of steam and such. It was cute and quaint alternative to Disneyland. I remember going once -- maybe in the late 80s, and the original Knott's Family home and Model-T was slowly rotting away -- just off one of the pathways -- forgotten.
Originally Posted By mousermerf <<<everything else at Disneyland or the DLR or WDW s just crap.>>> That's not something I've ever said - it's something you made up.
Originally Posted By tashajilek "And as for Disney.. I primarily care about Epcot. I'm not alone" Indirectly you are saying everything else is crap. We are comparind DL to KBF and some how Epcot has got to be brought up.
Originally Posted By mousermerf You know, if you weren't so narrow minded the twisting of what people say to fit your view would be kinda humorous.
Originally Posted By mousermerf And for the record - nothing exists in a bubble. I'm sorry it's outside your experience and that makes you bitter and irrational. I also mentioned the Universal parks as having a mentionable fan following. So it's not some Epcot-pusing vendetta on my part. No, you'd simply like to pretend your experience is the limit of the universe. Thank god for the rest of us, it's not true.
Originally Posted By tashajilek " makes you bitter and irrational" That makes makes me laugh. Im probably the most care free easy going fun and friendly perosn on the planet. I do get a kick out of seeing you get your feathers all ruffled.
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Originally Posted By 2001DLFan <<Dr Hans Reinhardt: There are a lot of people who like Knott's as much as or even more than DL. Back when DCA opened there was great debate on whether or not DCA was designed to compete directly with Knott's offerings. Personally I find Knott's a complete waste of time. "she also stated it wasnt the same as when she was 10 years old and seemed to be more geared towards little kids." This comment really struck me because it's issue that I've been complaining about for a long time now. Disney needs to be very mindful of the direction they are taking their parks. With all of the recent Princess and Pixar additions I have to say that I agree with her.>> Apparently, there was actually a time when the Knott’s were looking for Disney to buy them instead 0f Cedar Fair. I believe it was around the time of Disney’s failed American Adventure park attempt. There was a lot of potential there but I think that Eisner turned it down. There were some Imagineers who felt that the park had a LOT of potential and it would have certainly fared better than it has under Cedar Fair.
Originally Posted By onlyme Good grief. Anyway, how did I miss this thread? Like some of you guys, back in the day, my family would go to Knotts one day and DL the next. One day for each park. There were no multi-day visits back then. You got one day a year to go, so I enjoyed every minute. I loved the Knotts Berry Farm of yesteryear. But, as someone else said, it was sort of the appetizer before we went to DL the next day. I haven't been back in over 10 years. Last time I was there, it was really losing that special feeling. A lot of the stuff that I had once loved was gone. I enjoyed the parachute ride, though. So, I've only been back to have the Chicken Dinner and it was good, but nothing spectacular. We used to wait what seemed like hours for that dinner. However, the boysenberry pie with ice cream on top was still pretty fricken' good.
