Originally Posted By Mr X My thinking might be out of date, you are right TDLFAN. However as little as 5 years ago I saw those motel-6 crappy all-stars priced upwards and even over $100 per night. The Omni Rosen (a beautiful hotel) on i-Drive could often be booked much cheaper than that. I suppose at this point they're slashing prices? Wouldn't surprise me.
Originally Posted By TDLFAN >>My thinking might be out of date, you are right TDLFAN.<< I am always right. It's SuperDry who makes me look bad.
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< It's the huge ignorance about a career that takes a lot of dedication to perform and the constant abuse and misconceptions most of you seem to have about it, and how quick many are to point fingers to the very people who one day can be administering CPR on you in a crowded airplane aisle. There is simply no respect from management and the traveling public >>> I don't know how to respond to this. I've been just about as clear as I can be on the above matters - it still seems as perhaps you have me confused with someone else. I know I once ticked you off by referring to union rhetoric. But when you use terms like "scab mechanics" it's hard for me to think that I was too far off base. If you will notice, I have been very critical of airline management, and only a little critical of flight attendant unions. I don't think the union always acts in the long-term interest of its members - that's just my opinion. Also, note that I've been hardly critical at all with regards to the flight attendants themselves, so I don't know where all this animosity is coming from. <<< >>I'll take that as a compliment.<< Please don't. I am making a refenrence about some of the most vile people I have ever had the pleasure of meeting. Phoneys if you will. Is that how we should view you as well?? >>> Well of course not. It's quite obvious who you're making a reference to, and I'll stay out of that situation. I hope that you don't consider me vile and a phoney. I've tried to be as up front with you in person, via email, and on LP and we now seem to just have a problem communicating for some reason (although I don't send email anymore as you said on LP that you blocked me). I don't speak in tongues and usually just come out and say what I think, so I'm not sure why I'm being misunderstood. I'll just leave it at that. I hope everything works out for you, friend.
Originally Posted By TDLFAN >>so I don't know where all this animosity is coming from.<< You hated MOM!!! Enough said!! How could you?!?!?! <---Runs away crying out loud!!
Originally Posted By TDLFAN Oh.. one more thing. I don't ever recall having your email, much less blocking you from my list.
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< I don't think a meal and a movie mean much to most folks (the meal wasn't gourmet or anything, was it? >>> Well, the airline pricing and service models are very complex. The same airline, same fleet, and same in-flight service standards are being marketed to several widely divergent groups of passengers. To answer your question, it wasn't gourmet in the least. It was a cheeseburger, a salad, and a packet of Skittles. But since the flight departed at 6pm and we went to the airport directly from our business appointment, it was nice to know that there was food on the plane. It didn't have to be totally filling, but it took the edge off until I got home. The leisure traveler (such as the person that might go to WDW once a year) by and large doesn't care about in-flight service issues and will shop on price alone. SWA caters wonderfully to that market. <<< could I have packed a nicer meal for myself from home?). >>> Well, perhaps, but it would not have been a hot meal. But the point is that another market segment, the frequent business traveler, does not want to have to pack meals and take them with them onboard. Traveling is already stressful enough without having to worry about bringing food. Plus, many food items are now prohibited to go past security. You can buy food in the terminal and bring it on board (in fact, Subway has set up locations in many SWA terminals, which is a rather good idea I think), but sometimes you don't have an extra 30 minutes to stand in line and get food. The reason that Continental maintains free meal service is that this is one of the primary things that the business traveler wants and expects, and although they may the minority in terms of passenger count, they're were the lion's share of profit is made, because they tend to travel on more expensive tickets.
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< You hated MOM!!! Enough said!! How could you?!?!?! <---Runs away crying out loud!! >>> Hey, I'm sorry about that one. I'm no phoney - I'll tell you straight up when a Disney show bores me to tears such that I kept looking at my watch wondering when it would end. But I won't go so far as to say that someone that likes it has poor taste. It's just different than mine.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 the term 'full service carrier' make me chuckle -- compared to 20 years ago there are no full service carriers today - sadly.
Originally Posted By TDLFAN In the USA that is... Have you tried some of the Asian and middle eastern carriers lately???
Originally Posted By Mr X I dunno, TDLFAN. International is okay, but I flew supposedly "good" JAL from Tokyo to Okinawa (a 3 hour flight I think) and got nothing more than water and green tea. I thought that was pretty poor (not even a selection of beverages, for pete's sake!). Coming back on JAS, it was the same story.
Originally Posted By TDLFAN I didn't say "japanese" carriers... I said Asian, as in Cathay Pacific and Singapore, and in regards to JAL and subsidiaries.... I have never flown coach so I would not know how poor the service is in the back. Could this be why the japanese guests are always askiing for osha and orengyjusu in couah when we have a selection of over 35 beverages available??? Hmmm... conditioning of the minds.. just like everyone is conditioned to believe airpplane food is bad, just because they don't know that the change in preassurization affects food and body sensitivities. Oh well..
Originally Posted By mrichmondj << just like everyone is conditioned to believe airpplane food is bad, just because they don't know that the change in preassurization affects food and body sensitivities. Oh well.. >> so, how come the food that I bring on the plane to eat in flight doesn't taste any different if it's all due to the pressurization? shouldn't all food be bad if that was the case?
Originally Posted By TDLFAN >>so, how come the food that I bring on the plane to eat in flight doesn't taste any different if it's all due to the pressurization? shouldn't all food be bad if that was the case?<< Very good question. I was refering to food that gets to be cooked onboard the aircraft. Cooking times and different heating technics on the airplane's ovens can affect the taste of the food, and dehydrate even more due to the preasure inside the cabin. The same way the human body dehydrates on a plane, so do raw meats and poultry that has to be cooked on board for service. Many seasonings and preservatives are added to airline food to avoid such problems when food is cooked and served onboard. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't.. depends on the catering kitchen at any particualr airports, since some of them do better than others in regards to food preparation. Furthermore, many airlines are now opting for more steam cooking ovens in newer airplanes versus dry-heat conventional ones in order to provide better quality food for customers.
Originally Posted By Labuda "Rehearsal...are you a performer somewhere? Sounds neat!" Nope, not a performer, but a tech. Lighting & sound are my priamry gigs these days, but I will be doing a gig as ASM on a production of High School Musical this summer. That should be fun.
Originally Posted By Labuda "My thinking might be out of date, you are right TDLFAN. However as little as 5 years ago I saw those motel-6 crappy all-stars priced upwards and even over $100 per night." Since I was dense enough to pick peak season for my upciming trip (April 8-15), I get the rate of $119 a night for Pop Century.
Originally Posted By TDLFAN Amazing you are paying more for yout hotel at Disney than your air fare... No wonder people in my profession can't pay their bills anymore.
Originally Posted By mrichmondj ^^ Nobody can pay their bills anymore. Just cash out refinance your home to buy groceries. That's what all good Americans are expected to do. Of course, I would say that if you have enough money to buy all those annual passes to Disney parks around the globe, you probably have enough to pay the electric company.
Originally Posted By TDLFAN Purchasing the Disney APs is just about the ony perk I can afford right now and provide many days of enjoyment at Disney Resorts. I do meet my bill payments, but my pay is not stable as I do not work the same number of hours from month to the next.. so I can't never count on having the same amount of pay after taxes every month. On months when my hours of work don't stack up high, it becomes difficult, and in my career, many restriction come into play that prevent me from working more that what I am allowed to. Not that I would like to spend 200 hrs of my month in an airplane mind you...
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<Since I was dense enough to pick peak season for my upciming trip (April 8-15), I get the rate of $119 a night for Pop Century.>> And here I thought you were the only sane Texan around these here parts ;-)
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 Oh, and even though I have no time to add a lengthy post (or a dozen) on this thread right now as I am at a convention in Las Vegas (frigid, Las Vegas, I might add), I have enjoyed reading it. A lot! Someone remind me to post when I get back on how I see the same marginalization/homogenization of the Vegas resorts as I have with Disney's resort and park offerings of late ... it'll be good I promise ... who would have thought that one of the major consultanting firms that first broke McDonald's then did its part on Disney is doing likewise with MGM-Mirage? And likely laughing all the way to the bank with seven and eight figure checks. I miss the good old days when we called consultants by their proper name: unemployed! Anyway, thanks for the entertaining reading and keep it up
