Originally Posted By MPierce >> Since there will probably never again be anything like the Disney brand I don't think it really matters. The new generation of Disney goers will see to that. << I so agree. It's hard to demand excellence when you have been raised to accept less.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> DHS needs more than rides like TSMM, it needs a clarified direction. The park is a mess and a shadow of its former self. With the removal of animation, the joke of a Backlot tour, the reduced hours of Fantasmic, and BAH it has become the laughing stock of the Florida parks. As it stands, if ToT, Muppets, and TSMM were not at the park, I would not darken the turnstiles of the place. BTW, I have missed your posts in the magical place Spirit. << I so agree with you. It's still a beautiful park, but to coin Spirits thread on the MK "it has lost it's soul" Welcome to LP. I hope you enjoy yourself here. Spirit is such a different person over here. He's so warm, and cuddly, and not nearly as opinionated. He's the Mr. Rogers of LP!.
Originally Posted By MPierce >>> >The mushroom pastry was excellent too (not sure whether that is still there) ...< <<< >> Sadly, it's not. This has long been my favorite R&C appetizer, but no longer. << How long do you think it will be before they eliminate the Fish, and Chips Dan.
Originally Posted By Krankenstein <<Welcome to LP. I hope you enjoy yourself here.>> Thanks! I joined after a friend recommended it. So far, I like it a lot because of the much more open feeling.
Originally Posted By bobbelee9 <<How long do you think it will be before they eliminate the Fish, and Chips Dan.>> I won't respond, I won't respond, I don't dare respond,... my post would turn to red.
Originally Posted By bobbelee9 Oh no, my own Mother told my husband he married a prude. I could just never do anything like that. I shut my pc off last night after seeing what my daughter put in another thread.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 >The mushroom pastry was excellent too (not sure whether that is still there) ...< <<Sadly, it's not. This has long been my favorite R&C appetizer, but no longer.>> I often feel like Mickey is giving me the finger when I hear news like this, kinda like when an exec tells me to have a magical day!
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<DHS needs more than rides like TSMM, it needs a clarified direction. The park is a mess and a shadow of its former self. With the removal of animation, the joke of a Backlot tour, the reduced hours of Fantasmic, and BAH it has become the laughing stock of the Florida parks. >> I certainly agree with the above. But that's how I feel about all of WDW's parks except for DAK. They are all creatively adrift, stale and they don't know what they want to be or, more importantly, what they're supposed to be. Someone needs to chart a course and I don't see it ... <<As it stands, if ToT, Muppets, and TSMM were not at the park, I would not darken the turnstiles of the place. >> For me, it's ToT and Brown Derby. I can do the other two at DCA (one with a single-rider line so there's no ridiculous waits). <<BTW, I have missed your posts in the magical place Spirit.>> Thanks for the sentiment and welcome to the BEST Disney site online! I popped up on MAGIC today (off most of the week and did the beach yesterday, maybe should have gone back today?) ... and chaos ensued. They really seem to not comprehend basic concepts over there ... not everyone certainly, but a a large minority. I feel like I'm trying to train a dog to use a toilet.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<Spirit is such a different person over here. He's so warm, and cuddly, and not nearly as opinionated. He's the Mr. Rogers of LP!.>> You are just saying that because you like my sweaters.
Originally Posted By Bob Paris "In hopes of a publicity boost, Disney last week invited a group of about 20 reporters, photographers and bloggers on a tour of its new Central Florida properties" Aaaahhhhhh.........so THAT's why Lou "All I can talk about is food and I wonder why I am fat" Mongello put up the little video tour of the new properties on his site.
Originally Posted By Krankenstein <<For me, it's ToT and Brown Derby. I can do the other two at DCA (one with a single-rider line so there's no ridiculous waits). I popped up on MAGIC today (off most of the week and did the beach yesterday, maybe should have gone back today?) ... and chaos ensued. They really seem to not comprehend basic concepts over there ... not everyone certainly, but a a large minority. I feel like I'm trying to train a dog to use a toilet.>> I wish I could enjoy your park hopping ability. Hopefully, once grad school is over, I'll finally make to California. Yes, I noticed you popping up. I don't understand why people feel the need to defend Disney at every turn. They do some things right, but not always...and especially right now. I try to stay out of all the jiber jaber with a certain jt guy and his sympathizers.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 "In hopes of a publicity boost, Disney last week invited a group of about 20 reporters, photographers and bloggers on a tour of its new Central Florida properties" <<Aaaahhhhhh.........so THAT's why Lou "All I can talk about is food and I wonder why I am fat" Mongello put up the little video tour of the new properties on his site.>> I don't know Lou ... or his site. I do know that Disney, a decade too late, has opted to attempt to co-opt the online community. Call it the Al Lutz Effect. So now any housewife, fanboi in Mom's basement, or spending five days a week in Disney parks while picking up government disability checks dude types with online blogs wind up being equated with real media. I find that scary. I commented earlier that the info on Mermaid was posted on Theme Park Insider ... then I looked at a major USA Today story on summer in the theme parks and Robert Niles (the dude behind the site) was quoted. These bloggers now become interchangable with REAL media in the eyes of the public when they have no such experience ... they're also much more likely to fall victim to the pixie dust puked forth by Disney Social Media. Rest assured, it won't be on the latest cutbacks.
Originally Posted By danyoung >These bloggers now become interchangable with REAL media in the eyes of the public when they have no such experience ...< I completely agree, oh Spirit. It makes me nervous when something goes down in one of the parks, and the official media will go right to Al for an "inside" quote. It kind of inflates the opinions of just a few uber-fans to news status, which just doesn't seem to be deserved.
Originally Posted By mousermerf Spirit, speaking of the officialness of Disney-related media, what is you opinion of the UG?
Originally Posted By vbdad55 "Second quarter of 2008, DVC wrote $42 million in mortgages. Second quarter of 2009, DVC wrote ... none. " are you saying Bay Lake not selling at all ? I know 2 people that bought in but I can't tell you if it was 1st or 2nd quarter
Originally Posted By vbdad55 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ sorry, catching up after a week away - I have since read the explanation... I would say this has mostly to do with lines of credit not being extended to many buyers....
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<I completely agree, oh Spirit. It makes me nervous when something goes down in one of the parks, and the official media will go right to Al for an "inside" quote. It kind of inflates the opinions of just a few uber-fans to news status, which just doesn't seem to be deserved.>> Al, at least, is the best of the bunch. He may have an agenda, but he knows what he is talking about and has deep sources at Disney. Al is also not going to get all wet and excited because Disney invites him to a party or let's him speak to an Imagineer. What is scary is that Disney can much more easily co-opt Internet 'media' vs. someone who writes for the NY Times, Miami Herald, Variety, Newsweek etc ... And they love the free coverage they are getting as well and who wouldn't? No real media is going to cover timeshare openings or street party debuts and things like that ... but 'social media' will.
