Originally Posted By Socrates Have you ever tried playing The Great Piggy Bank Adventure? Socrates "The unexamined life is not worth living."
Originally Posted By FenwayGirl We always visit Innoventions. Lots of cool things for the family to do
Originally Posted By brotherdave Some exhibits in Innoventions are definitely worth checking out. I'm glad that EPCOT still offers interactive exhibits like this to showcase. Much more appropriate to have them in Epcot than in Tomorrowland at Disneyland...
Originally Posted By mousermerf And at Epcot there are simple doors.. you can leave at any time, walk in at any time, and it's not a chore like at DL.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer ....I just wish the EPCOT Center 25th Gallery was still in there. That was the only reason I visited, recently...
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< On a side note - positive and uplifting - I got a joyous earful from a coworker (44) who just got back from a four-day stay at WDW. She and her family (husband and older teen daughter) all had a magical time and was blown away at the experience. ... I really enjoyed listening to her and remembered myself when I used to have that mind set. It goes to show that perhaps there is simply a customer life cycle to the experience of WDW. I have reach the end with the current offerings. And people like my coworker will just take my place and the cycles continue. >>> I think that's a really insightful observation. I think some of us Disney fanboys lose track of that sometimes. Just because an offering is stale to us doesn't mean that there isn't a whole new crop of first-time guests that spend a week at WDW, start planning their next year's visit immediately, and can probably visit several more years with nothing new added to the resort before it becomes stale to them.
Originally Posted By demderedoseguys >I think that's a really insightful observation. I think some of us Disney fanboys lose track of that sometimes. Just because an offering is stale to us doesn't mean that there isn't a whole new crop of first-time guests that spend a week at WDW, start planning their next year's visit immediately, and can probably visit several more years with nothing new added to the resort before it becomes stale to them.< Which is exactly the reason that Disney has no motivation to return to the glory days. They've lowered the expectations of the new visitors at the expense of the rest of us long time Disney goers.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> Bottom line: much talk over very little. Good moves by Disney, but small scale. Cheap. And things that Disney used to always do in FLA (pre-An Unmagical Decade of Decline: The Walmarting of WDW in the 21st Century -- already copyrighted!) without having giant whorefests of people predisposed to pixie dust intoxication. << It's the nature of the beast, by an almost cult like following of online internet fans. >> What we have is George K 'thanking' his old bois network in FLA that saved his Disney career in 2002 (when by all rights it should have ended)in a small way by sending a rehabbed 1972-era parade back to FLA ... and saving the costs of presenting it at DL this summer (NOT DCA) as was planned. And it will be around at least two years, count on it (the press releases at TDO touting it staying due to 'phenomenal guest demand' have already been written). << I think it has more to do with saving a buck, rather than guest demand. >> What we don't have is anything substantially new in ANY of four parks. No new attractions. No new shows. No new parades. No new fireworks (Sorry, Meg baby, but repackaged magic isn't new magic). Hell, even the new food locations at EPCOT won't be ready for summer. What we don't have is any remote volley to return the shot delieved by WWoHP at IOA. << Are you trying to say Disney is offering up rehased offerings with hyped up PR rather than offering us anything of substance? >> Now, don't get me wrong, I do think these are good things. All of them. It's just they aren't big. They aren't game-changing. They are simply returning to what Disney did in the past (just less so). << I so agree, but we should be use to Disney offering just what it needs to get by. >> (Thinking of marketing a line of Spirited Disney DVDs showing stupidity in the parks and resorts from guests and cast ... Disney Gone Wild! ... do you think they'd sell?) << Where can I buy a copy.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> Yeah. Unfortunately, I have very little interest in following up. This place just seems so dead ... am I missing something? << Lack of enthusiasim maybe?
Originally Posted By mousermerf It's not just here.. Many Disney fan forums are floundering.. it's kinda funny that Disney isn't noticing..
Originally Posted By leobloom I occasionally look at that other Magical place, and when you take away the half-dozen people who post a hundred times everyday, there's very little going on over there, too.
Originally Posted By bobbelee9 Maybe people are getting lives, and don't have time for the boards. I find that a horrible idea. I need you guys keeping me informed.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo I suspect it is a case that I am not the only one very disillusioned with the mouse trying to find new interests. And for others, it could be the recession keeping them away if they do not know when their next trip will be.
Originally Posted By mousermerf There's nothing really interesting happening in mouse land lately.. Orlando Sentinel reported sometime last fall that overall filings for new work and permits for construction for all of last year were down at WDW. There's just not a lot to talk about. Nothing to talk about, no buzz. No buzz, no hype. Disney really thinks it can rest on its laurels though.. right now it is coasting. Hopefully that wont work for long and it will hit them pretty hard and swiftly. Interestingly enough, it looks like Florida's WDI sect is undergoing a major reorganization and house cleaning.
Originally Posted By dshyates There is HUGE stuff coming to WDW. There is an Aurora meet and great with coloring, a Cinderella meet and great with dancing, a Belle meet and great with storytime, and an Ariel meet and great. Oh, and a restaurant and I belive a ride.
Originally Posted By mousermerf Except they admitted a day or so ago in an event they hosted for D23 that they don't actually have any plans for any of that finalized, that they're really just playing around with all of it, they don't even know where Dumbo is going to be yet, can't figure out how to theme the train station or the Barnstormer.. and they appear to have fired everyone else who works in the building who was not present and accounted for at the event. Except Larry, he was out getting more erasable markers so they could doodle on the whiteboard some more theories of what to do about everything. They don't even know when they're going to close Toon Town Fair because they don't know what they're going to do to it.
Originally Posted By mousermerf Think of it this way, Fantasyland Forest Expansion is as solid as Edison Street.
Originally Posted By dshyates Arggg! I can't believe that I wrote great instead of greet 4X in a row without realizing it. One less martini and a real keyboad instead of this cute little iPhone thingy would help.
