Originally Posted By Labuda Me? Nope, not really. I <3 sports! And while it may seem weird to most, I'm a fan of the Spurs (grew up in SA), the Red Wings (dated a guy from Detroit back in 96 during hockey season and he got me into hockey), and the Steelers (Granddad was a native Pennsylvanian). Not really into soccer, though, so in the realm of soccer I'm a TOTAL dummy. I do think soccer players are great athletes, I just don't pay any attention to the sport.
Originally Posted By Labuda "Labuda, being from Texas, how are the locals reacting to the shaft that Mike Leach got from Tech?" I'll be able to let you know tomorrow - right now I'm in Houston at my best friend's place and he doesn't care at all about sports. Me, though? I think Leach deserves to have lost his job if he really did what he's accused of, and so far, it seems as if he did. He should just take his $1.6 million and go away. Good for Tech for putting their students' welfare ahead of their desire to have a winning football team or whatever.
Originally Posted By WilliamK99 I'll be able to let you know tomorrow - right now I'm in Houston at my best friend's place and he doesn't care at all about sports. Me, though? I think Leach deserves to have lost his job if he really did what he's accused of, and so far, it seems as if he did. He should just take his $1.6 million and go away. Good for Tech for putting their students' welfare ahead of their desire to have a winning football team or whatever.<< Without dragging this into WE territory, it seems the accusations are in part made up and exagerated by ESPN , it appears the network has a conflict of interest covering this story...
Originally Posted By Labuda True - I know that the kid is the son of an ESPN commentator, but we'll just see what my friends, especially the Tech fans I know, think of this when I get home and to my regular hang out (a sports bar) tomorrow evening.
Originally Posted By Labuda Ok, so... spoke to some Tech fans last night about Leach... they are LIVID and let's say that the general consensus is that the player is totally in the wrong and that a good word to describe him rhymes with witch.
Originally Posted By WilliamK99 Ok, so... spoke to some Tech fans last night about Leach... they are LIVID and let's say that the general consensus is that the player is totally in the wrong and that a good word to describe him rhymes with witch.<< I did some extensive research into this the other night and it is becoming clear that ESPN stepped way out of bounds here and compromised whatever journalistic integrity they had left with their reports.... It is going to be interesting if Leach will end up suing James and ESPN for slander based on some of the comments made about him by ESPN....
Originally Posted By Labuda Slander or defamation of character, yeah... and I will admit that it FLOORED me to see the dad on ESPN the other day whining about how "we didn't ask for this" when his kid apparently DID and they all jumped on the bandwagon.
Originally Posted By amazedncal2 <<<true non sports fan, I have no idea whatsoever what or who you are talking about. Just sayin I do LOVE the commercials on ESPN though, they are the best
Originally Posted By Princessjenn5795 Okay, here is one. Does sacking the quarterback in football give the sacking team extra points or yards or anything?
Originally Posted By oredisneyfan sacking the quarterback backs the offense up to where the quarterback was sacked so it actually takes yards away from the offense. example: if the line of scrimmage is the 3o yard line and the quarterback is sacked back at th 20 yard line the 20 yard line becomes the new line of scrimmage, resulting in a play of -10 yards. This also means that in order to convert the down they must gain the original yardage needed plus the 10 lost in the sack hmmm maybe that is confusing
Originally Posted By Mr X ***Same with football, things like "safety" and such, what the heck?*** I'd like some info on this as well...something to do with 2 points and a play in the opposing teams end zone, right? A tackle of the receiver there perhaps?
Originally Posted By FerretAfros I've always tried to figure that one out too. I saw one this year, and I'm still not sure what happened. I'm trying to remember what happened, but it doesn't quite make sense with what I know about football. I believe they were around the 15 yardline, at the far end of the field from where they needed to be to score. The center hiked the ball too high, and it flew over the quarterback's head. Luckily (?) there was someone behind the quarterback who caught the ball, but he was in the endzone. I'm not sure what happened next, but I know that the other team ended up with 2 points. And if there are any hockey experts out there, what exactly is icing? The only thing I know of is that sugary stuff you put on top of a cake, but I don't think that's right.
Originally Posted By oredisneyfan If an offensive player is tackled in their own end zone it is a safety and the defense scores 2 points for their team, they also lose possesion of the ball and must then kick off to the other team ( the one that just got the 2 pts) so it is doubly bad. also a punter who is kicking a ball out of their own endzone can not step out of the back line of the endzone or else it is a safety.....2 pts for the other team.
Originally Posted By oredisneyfan about the question where the center hiked the ball over the quarter backs head but someone else was there and it resulted in a safety. It was probably recovered by an offensive player in their own endzone and then he was tackled so it was a safety. had it been recovered by the other team in the endzone it would have been a touchdown.
Originally Posted By oredisneyfan not a hockey fan but I believe Icing is when the puck clears the center line when it is hit by a player at one end and no one else hits it.....not sure though.
Originally Posted By Mr X Great info, ore! Thanks. So, if a punter can't punt and gets tackled, is that also a safety? I know football reasonably well, but hockey totally eludes me (so I'm very curious about icing as well). Thanks!
Originally Posted By Mr X ***So, if a punter can't punt and gets tackled, is that also a safety?*** In his own endzone I mean, of course.
Originally Posted By oredisneyfan yes anyone tackled in there own endzone is a safety, unless it is the kick or punt returner. they can take a knee in the endzone and then the ball is advanced to the 20 yard line. but that is them downing the ball. wonder if they were tackled in the endzone before they kneeled down if it would be a safety?? never thought of that hmmm and I thought I knew my football?
