Originally Posted By BlueOhanaTerror >>>>Oh, and as to Ops being briefed, that would be the responsibility of the on-site WDI team.<<< I wouldn't be surprised if WDI, to simply avoid the pressure, just misled Ops with the intent to tell them LATER they were going to open after the New Year. Given the foolishness of opening some attractions prematurely, that's what I would do if I were on the design team. It'll be done when it's good and ready.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> It really doesn't matter to me one bit. But I do know people plan vacations in advance and Disney does a generally lousy job of telling them what will be open when they're there and what park hours will be. << To me that's the biggest issue about this change in opening dates.
Originally Posted By cassiedoodle SERIOUSLY. it's opening up the day AFTER i leave?! i am absolutely livid!!
Originally Posted By sun-n-fun I hope it really does open by pres day week. My kids would be sooooo disappointed to have it closed twice in a row. OH well, if it's closed we'll have to plan another trip !!!!!
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <Spirit - honestly the plan was always January - I have no idea where people got other timetables from. They are touching every single scene in the attraction and replacing the entire audio and lighting system so it is a huge operation (and adding two brand new scenes - not including the new finale). There was never any plan to open it partly completed. < and although I missed HM and SSE - two of my top 10 things to do at WDW this last trip -- this is the right way to do things. I missed them but next trip they will be better - I am all for that.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <I tell my friends from out of town that if they've never been to Mardi Gras, they'll love it and they need to come down at least once for it. However, my days of fighting over a penny's worth of plastic beads on Mardi Gras Day are over. I much prefer St. Patrick's Day: parades and beads but with a lot fewer people .< fighting over beads eh ?? been to N.O 3 times, once of which was for Mardi gras - and I have to say - it was quite the experience ( but not for everybody) and that I enjoyed N.O. a lot more in the non Mardi gras times -- too many people who simply get out of control - and my guess is they are mainly all visitors
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <SERIOUSLY. it's opening up the day AFTER i leave?! i am absolutely livid!! < if you're that close likely there will some hours of soft openings if you're in the right place at the right time.
Originally Posted By BlueOhanaTerror Well, there'll likely be a soft opening well-prior to any official date, right?
Originally Posted By bobbelee9 July 2006, Pirates was due to open the day after we left WDW. Luckily for us, (and for Disney) they opened 2-3 days before we left. So, it does happen.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 >> It really doesn't matter to me one bit. But I do know people plan vacations in advance and Disney does a generally lousy job of telling them what will be open when they're there and what park hours will be. << <<To me that's the biggest issue about this change in opening dates.>> Yes. What's worse is Disney used to be GREAT about planning ... even before the Internet existed (or anyone knew about it). But since the start of this decade, the website changes very frequently. Usually, park hours can't ever be considered the real deal until the week before the next two week period starts because that's when the printed brochures etc ... get done. Just last week, Disney notched down some very late hours at MK for Christmas week. It 'was' going to be 8-1 for like six days followed by 8-2 on 12/30-31 (with an absurd 5 a.m. EMH night/morning one of those days ... where the MK would operate for 23 straight hours). DAK hours for December also were recently tweaked. And I still wouldn't count on them. As to attraction rehabs, when Disney's business model changed drastically in the mid-90s, so did the scheduling of downtime for attractions. Sometimes, it's an almost last-minute deal. With SSE closed for the holidays, it makes me wonder if Disney might un-mothball a pavilion it has boarded up and painted over to increase capacity.
Originally Posted By cmash95 maybe the new vp decided to keep going with the rehab rather than do what MK did and open a ride half done. while I am dissappointed the ride won't be open until feb or march, I would rather ride an attraction that is completed than ride one that is half done so I can have something else for guests to do over holidays. I know that means less for epcot during the busy season but I think guests will appreciate the delay in the long run. maybe mr holms can learn something from this and not reopen the mountain until it's totally ready. unlike reopening the mansion while they were still tweeking things.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> With SSE closed for the holidays, it makes me wonder if Disney might un-mothball a pavilion it has boarded up and painted over to increase capacity. << A gutted Wonders of Life Pavilion would be a poor substitute for a sparkling new Spaceship Earth.
Originally Posted By NikkiLOVESMickey <<fighting over beads eh ?? >> The "flashing" for beads thing really only occurs in the Quarter, and it's definitely tourist thing. You'll NEVER see that at the parades around my house. The Mardi Gras I love and miss was much more local and family oriented. We'd go out early in the morning and bring king cake and fried chicken and our family (and thousands of other families) would wait for the parade. Now, even in Metairie where I live, it's 10-15 deep on Mardi Gras Day. It's ridiculous.
Originally Posted By mrkthompsn As an engineer, extra time is a blessing. Let them "get it right". The attraction will be open for years and years. A few extra months is worth it. Sometimes delays like this are limted by supplier leadtimes and capabilities. Plus, if we expect complex mechanisms for the attraction details, chances are that those technologies are not behaving as engineering expects. They must go through a few phases of refinement.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<The "flashing" for beads thing really only occurs in the Quarter, and it's definitely tourist thing. You'll NEVER see that at the parades around my house. >> I just got back from the world's largest Halloween Party in West Hollywood (100,000 people on Sunset Blvd)... and there was some flashing going on ... and a lot of exposed flesh ... and I kind of wonder how comfortable it is to have nothing but a chain up your butt (but that's another subject!)
