Originally Posted By MPierce >> We: merf, myself, etc. << Who the heck is etc. Is that someone's initials or is that their screen name. How much reliability should I give to an "etc.". Everyone here is allowed to have an opinion. I wouild suggest you learn the difference between opinion, and fact. Speculation only becomes fact after it is proven.
Originally Posted By Sport Goofy << They expect quality and exciting, immersive environments. SSE's descent doesn't provide either. >> So, in other words, its very similar to all the previous incarnations of the attraction.
Originally Posted By leobloom And so Sport, they should minus, not plus, attractions? And MP, I've read plenty of Victorian novels. Unfortunately, though, life's not long enough to read long posts from Disney apologists.
Originally Posted By leobloom SSE is finished. How do I know? Because I can assess the situation and see they expect the screens to carry the descent. If they make other significant changes by Feb, I'll eat my words, crawl in the stockade in Frontierland and let people pelt me with frozen tomatoes.
Originally Posted By MPierce May I be so bold as to quote Spirit of 74. >> I have been told by three spirits I trust that indeed SSE's work is NOT done. And this state is just the 'we need it up and running for the holidays' ... but I also have no idea just how much work will be done on it. << I wasn't able to quote Lee's comments because the thread that mousermerf started on WDWmagic, has magically disappeared. >> And MP, I've read plenty of Victorian novels. Unfortunately, though, life's not long enough to read long posts from Disney apologists. << Yes, I'm so very sure you have. If you don't have time to read a complete post why are you here. Does a long post cut into your video game playing or something. >> And so Sport, they should minus, not plus, attractions? << Sport Goofy has made it very clear what he thinks of SSE. He didn't care for the ending before, he probably won't care for it now. I'm sure his post were short enough for you to read. It doesn't get much clearer than that. Let me quote Sport Goofy since you seem to be struggling with it. >> So, in other words, its very similar to all the previous incarnations of the attraction. << I am certainly looking forward to more of your speculation, and brash comments in the future l.
Originally Posted By leobloom How is SSE's descent "very similiar to all the previous incarnations of the attraction" when it has been almost universally trashed by the online community? Public opinion is that the descent is inferior, not equal to, "previous incarnations". What is so difficult to understand about that? BTW, how did you know I play video games? Or is that an example of your own speculative, brash comments?
Originally Posted By Sport Goofy << Public opinion is that the descent is inferior, not equal to, "previous incarnations". >> It's not public opinion, it's fansite opinion. But I do seem to remember that during the last big overhaul there was discussion (back in the RADP days) about how they axed the Tomorrow's Child theme from the ending of the ride and that didn't sit well with the same sort of fans who don't like the changes here either. So, it's quite possible that if this forum had existed 15 years ago you would be hearing the same thing.
Originally Posted By mousermerf Sport, this forum isn't the only one, and amounts to hundred of people, both ans and Disney CMs and more. The ending is a failure. Have you even ridden it or are you blindly supporting it?
Originally Posted By Sport Goofy If you read my comments, you'll understand that I wasn't that thrilled with the ending of the old version. The only thing I don't support is all the hyperbole and handwringing over something so inconsequential. It's really pretty silly.
Originally Posted By leobloom Sport, it's a Disney discussion board. Everything here is inconsequential in the big scheme of things. What's your point?
Originally Posted By MPierce >> BTW, how did you know I play video games? Or is that an example of your own speculative, brash comments? << Let's examine what I really said. >> Yes, I'm so very sure you have. If you don't have time to read a complete post why are you here. Does a long post cut into your video game playing or something. << You notice how it was formed into a question thus the or something following video game. Had I said "it cuts into your video playing" time now that would be a brash comment. Now I may fear you could possibly have A.S.D. (Attention Span Disorder). If you can't make it to the end of my post, maybe you should tell your Mommy. She could take you in to see a health care professional who has experience in these matters. Let me give you an example of a brash comment. >> We've known all along that this thing is finished. It's the Disney apologists who haven't come to terms with it yet. << Unless you are somebody way up in the Disney corp. this is a brash comment. You are merely speculating. Also you never did address these other comments you made. >> Finished: Spirit and Lee over at wdwmagic have said it doesn't look like a lot more is coming. Hence, SSE is finished for all intents and purposes. << Neither one of them said that. You are failing to address your incorrect comment. Why? Mousemerf is basing his whole theory on speculation. They are having cast previews so therefore the ride is finished. He may be right I do not know. I prefer to wait an see if it is finished or not, then ride it before I start cussing the finished product. I can say I don't like the idea of a black 5 minute journey with a video screen. At least there was some eye candy in there before. However I still have to wait, and see if this ride is completely finished.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> I'm still trying to find out if what is there is pretty much the final product or not ... right now, I'm getting totally conflicting reports. Some say except for a few effects, it is done. Other say much will be added, and it will close down again for the entire month of January. Sorry, wish I had the answers. << This is the last thing Spirit had to say on this. If he can't get the final answer it seems like everyone could be jumping to conclusions. It may be finished, and then again it may not be. If leemac would make an appearance maybe he could shed some light on the issue.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 ^^I have no new info to offer, but I have been relatively out of touch with my Disney spirits of late. And, thanks for pointing out that I said I don't know whether it is completed or not. That said, I have heard that the exit surveys are not coming back with glowing praise. Note to certain Imagineers: People don't come to Disney parks to watch movies, even if they can push buttons, even if they can 'talk' to/with the characters. Ask yourself why PoC is still so amazingly popular after 40 years ... ask yourself why Everest is such a huge hit that it is pulling DAK's numbers where they've never been ... and ask yourself why no one goes home saying Monsters Laugh Floor or Turtle Talk was the highlight of their trips.
Originally Posted By Mr X Hi from Orlando (well, nearby anyway)! I thought Turtle Talk was kinda cute...good for kids, anyway. The whole Seas pavilion was my kids' favorite part of DisneyWorld, actually. SpaceShip Earth didn't have a good ending this time imo. Hopefully temporary.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 ^^Damn, I thought the 'purists' had convinced Mrs. X to go to Vegas or NYC instead of WDW! (spend lots while you're here ... our economy is in a MAJOR RECESSION!!!)
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Mr X - glad you had a good time. My kids loved the seas overlay too (as did I). what do you think of WDW after all this time?
Originally Posted By SIR at X-S Tech A question for anyone who was able to ride it, or who will be riding it soon- as you descend and you answer questions on your screen, when it asks you, where do you live and you are supposed to touch that spot on the map, has anyone pushed any international locations? I'm curious if touching a foriegn country makes it deliver your video in that language or if Siemens is perhaps just gathering marketing data.
Originally Posted By TDLFAN >>Spaceship Earth had Epcot Cast Member previews on Thursday and resort-wide CM previews on Saturday. They dont do those unless the ride is pretty much finished.<< If that is the case, then why are the walls still up at the entrance and the ride was closed yesterday most of the day?
Originally Posted By SIR at X-S Tech Is it possible that Siemens/WDI is actually hoping for some feedback on the attraction so far? Perhaps using the remaining time to improve it? I think any form of the attraction that has you focused on your screen for the last half, is going to be pretty inferior to the previous version, but if there was more going on around you than just the black walls and simple stars, it would be a step up from what's there now.
