Originally Posted By tashajilek "never fear. It will eventually return as sure as the sun will rise from the east tomorrow morning" Only if someone dies.
Originally Posted By trekkeruss <<Have any of you seen a move 20 times? That's how I feel every time I ride Star Tours. This revamp is way past due.>> But ST's replacement will be a movie too. So how long will it be before it gets old? BTW, I won't really miss the old ride. I'm just skeptical that the new one will be vastly superior.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "But ST's replacement will be a movie too. So how long will it be before it gets old?" Which is partly why I said this thing should have been changed out years ago. Hopefully they won't wait as long to switch it out the next time.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 I think multiple experiences would be great. They could either do it randomly, or have different destinations at different times of the day, so that your ride at 10 AM would be different from the one at 3 PM, which would be different from the one at 9 PM. If they couldn't reprogram the cabin moves that fast, perhaps they could have different destinations on different days (programming the moves before the day began) so that at least a multi-day visitor could go to different destinations. I doubt that will happen, though. I just don't think they'll spring for it. Since the announcement that STII was coming, I haven't heard much about what the new destination IS, though. Has anyone?
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "Sounds like a point in favor of multiple experiences to me." Of course. Do you really want to know what I think?
Originally Posted By mousermerf <<<If they couldn't reprogram the cabin moves that fast>>> I'm pretty sure with new computer technology they can reprogram them between shows - if not on the fly during the show. When one breaksdown and does not properly reset to "home" (the position needed for the drawbridges to lower and connect to the cabin) then they have to manually maneuver it there to get guests off. Seen it happen, not fun for the guests.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <I'm pretty sure with new computer technology they can reprogram them between shows - if not on the fly during the show. > I thought that too, but I wondered about safety checks. Any TL cm know about this? Do they have to "check the moves" of the cabins every morning before they let guests on? If so, I'd imagine they'd have to do a test run every time they changed the programming/moves, just to be sure everything was okay. If not legally (and that's possible too - I don't know what the law is on this), then just because of legitimate concern for safety. So alternate days would probably make more sense than multi-destinations on the same day, unless they took ST down completely for a half hour or so in the middle of the day, which would seem unlikely. It's probably all academic anyway - if they were planning multiple destinations, they almost certainly would have trumpeted it when the announced STII.
Originally Posted By mousermerf They just run a test flight and the vehicle monitors itself to be within safe movement limits. For audio/fx they run a stationary flight - which is actually possible at any point in the day for those who are preggers or anything too. I think you're being a bit too grand with the "multiple destination" idea - they're all still going to be programmed ahead of time. It's simply minor changes in the vehicle movement during the show portion. It's not going to magically decide a new route, render new graphics, and then calculate the movement to match. That's going to already be done and the morning tests will cover it, since it's multiple shows they may put in a "limits" test that covers the motion limits of all the shows combined.
Originally Posted By DlandDug Count me in for those who want multiple destinations. For years we've had posters advertising different places, but we've gone on the same flight, over and over again. (No to say it isn't a GREAT flight, and a great attraction.) I recall that the 360 theater in Disneyland's TL had different shows at different times of the day. That was done with film reels running through projectors. Surely with today's tech, they could create 3 or 4 different ST journeys, and change them out with the flip of a switch. (Or click of a mouse!)
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <I think you're being a bit too grand with the "multiple destination" idea - they're all still going to be programmed ahead of time. It's simply minor changes in the vehicle movement during the show portion. It's not going to magically decide a new route, render new graphics, and then calculate the movement to match.> Nor did I think they would. I just assume that with different films for different destinations (in our theoretical world), that the films would have the dips and turns at different points, thus the sim moves would have to happen at different times for the different destinations. I assumed these would be pre-programmed, of course, and you'd just boot up "Destination A" or "Destination B, C, or D," and you'd be set. But I wondered if you'd have to do a dry run each time you changed before letting passengers on. <That's going to already be done and the morning tests will cover it, since it's multiple shows they may put in a "limits" test that covers the motion limits of all the shows combined. > That would make sense. Of course, sometimes the law (particularly CA state park-safety laws) err on the side of caution, so maybe according to the state that wouldn't be "good enough." Of course, we'll probably never have to find out; it took them over 20 years to get Lucas to make ONE new film for this; I doubt he made any more (though that would be great). I'm still curious to hear from TL cm's how long the test takes at the beginning of the day.
Originally Posted By mousermerf *eye roll* You run the audio test with the cabin doors open and then you do a full flight test. If it's acting wonky you can watch the movement from a window that opens above the control panels to the right of door 1. Also there's video feed from the cabin and the drawbridges, which is double checked by Tower. It takes two cycles to complete, then it's ready to go for the day.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 I've never worked it. It's a legitimate question from someone who doesn't know the procedure. Was the arrogant *eye roll* really necessary?
Originally Posted By Manfried Thank you WilliamK99 for expressing my frustration with so many of the fans that don't like change, or claim the change is not for the better.
Originally Posted By gadzuux You want change? How about giving the heave-ho to the Star Wars brand all together? Why are we basing a "new" attraction - in "Tomorrowland" no less - on a franchise that launched in the 1970s and finally limped to an end over five years ago? How fresh is that? Star Tours (and the cartoony thing on tv) just seems like a overly labored attempt to artificially extend the whole star wars brand long after it's expiration date.
Originally Posted By tashajilek "Why are we basing a "new" attraction - in "Tomorrowland" no less - on a franchise that launched in the 1970s and finally limped to an end over five years ago? How fresh is that?" You could also agrgue the Disney franchise isnt fresh anymore. The Mickey mouse cartoons they have these day suck compare to the originals. Star wars is a classic, i love star wars and i didnt see the fist episodes until i was 13. You could also argue why put in the little mermaid ride when the movie came out in 1989? Why not put in the princess and the frog instead? Star wars still sells and it will for years to come. I agree the new cartoony stuff on tv is crap.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt >>Do you really want to know what I think?<< I wish they'd do away with the whole Star Wars theme and introduce a completely original plot and characters using whatever technological advances that are available. I have no idea what they have up their sleeve for this rehab, but I sure do wish DL was more like it was in the past when management would fearlessly rip out old stuff and introduce new concepts.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "You want change? How about giving the heave-ho to the Star Wars brand all together?" *high five*
