Originally Posted By beamerdog Thanks, again. WD, please take a look at my Tibet thread in this section. I was thinking that you had made a trip to that part of the world a year or two ago.
Originally Posted By WorldDisney Hey Beamerdog, Sorry responding so late, I havent checked this section in days. And I will take a look at your Tibet thread, but no I never been to Tibet . I DID think about going a few years back but ruled it out due to money (its actually quite expensive to get around) and just the logistics of going there and then hitting other parts of an extended trip I was trying to include at the time. I will take a look though and there are things I MIGHT can help you with .
Originally Posted By FilmNoir "...anyone catch CSI last night?!? LOL, GREAT Star Trek references..." We watched CSI and the Star Trek references were the highlight and left DH and I laughing and feeling like total geeks! LOL WD, thanks for sharing your Trek tidbits. Initially DH and I weren't looking forward to this one but the more previews we see, the more excited we get. From your comments/reviews, it sounds like a good'n!
Originally Posted By brotherdave I just caught the film again on DVD and I have to admit that I really liked it much more the second time around. I was able catch some of the Trek "in jokes" (like Captain Archer's beagle) that I forgot from before. The cast was great, especially Kirk, Spock, Bones, Scotty, & Chekov. I really like Pike's character in this version too. Even skewing from the 'canon' of the original series and films didn't seem so shocking to me this time around. When JJ Abrams (and Paramount) are finally done with this new series of films (what, you thought this one would be it?!?), they could possibly set 'right' what went 'wrong' in this film and set the Trek universe back to normal if they wish. My main complaint still, is the annoying hand held camera-work throughout. This isn't somebody's home movie or documentary about the future. It should have steady shots and glorious vistas for the audience. I remember that it made me a bit queasy in the theatre, and it still is a bit disconcerting on the small screen. I hope that in the eventual sequel, we can get less bouncing of the camera and better focus on the surroundings, both with the actors and the special effects. This isn't an MTV video! The new Battlestar Galactica did this and, along with the choppy story telling, it annoyed me so much I gave up watching the show! At least this new Trek was much more engrossing story wise. Enough so that I'm looking forward to the next installment!
Originally Posted By DAR This is just a rumor but here's some possible casting for the next film <a href="http://movies.ign.com/articles/104/1047284p1.html" target="_blank">http://movies.ign.com/articles...4p1.html</a> Now the thing is he might not necessarily be the villain since they are in an alternate timeline.
Originally Posted By oc_dean Ah ... one of my favorite discussions in the world. I would prefer they restore the original timeline. The planet Vulcan plays too large a part in the Star Trek universe. If a return of Khan somehow is used in a good way to restore the timeline ... it will be very interesting to see what the Enterprise will look like, after the fact. I would very much like to see the "Anheuser Busch" Engineering section of the ship replaced with something that looks appropriate for such futuristic technology: The Warp Drive (The engineering section was filmed at the Anheuser Busch Brewery in Van Nuys. Hence, all the aluminum cylinder containers, piping throughout the plant, etc.)
Originally Posted By oc_dean ^^^^^^ That was the most disappointing aspect of the new film. You have this 23rd century star ship capable of traveling faster than the speed of light. Yet, the warp drive is somewhere stored in any one of those aluminum containers that is normally used to create bear! So .. you create an engineering section for a 23rd century ship ... that looks like a mid 20th century brewery? Right? I'd like to see a new timeline with a Warp Drive that looks like a Warp Drive.
Originally Posted By trekkeruss <<you create an engineering section for a 23rd century ship ... that looks like a mid 20th century brewery?>> It may not look futuristic, but it is probably closer to what the reality might be. Think about today's high tech military or space machinery. Once you strip away the facade, it still comes down to lowly nuts and bolts and wires and everything else crude looking.
Originally Posted By WorldDisney Woah, I remember creating this thread way back when...I was really cool then . And sorry Dean, but I read countless articles about this film when it came out and I doubt they would restore the original timeline. The entire point of changing it was so that they could do their own thing and now have the geeks cry 'blasphemy' everytime they change anything remotely from the past. So I dont see any changes in that regard. The Khan rumor has been spreading for months, but I hope whatever villian they choose, its someone original. I dont really care to see a different version of Kahn in this universe or redo their introduction. We'll see in 2012 though .
Originally Posted By fkurucz <<Think about today's high tech military or space machinery. Once you strip away the facade, it still comes down to lowly nuts and bolts and wires and everything else crude looking. >> You don't even have to strip anything away. A friend of mine took me on a submarine tour some years ago. It looked VERY low tech, even though it wasn't.
Originally Posted By trekkeruss By facade, I mean the body. A submarine is a great example. On the outside, a sub looks very sleek. But as you discovered, inside the sub is a tangle of gadgets and gizmos. A sub interior is definitely function over form.
Originally Posted By oc_dean It wasn't even clear where or what the warp drive was in the Anheuser Busch Brewery sets. I think it was just a cheap means to keep the budget lower .. than build an engineering section that looks like something that would propel a ship to travel faster than the speed of light!
Originally Posted By oc_dean I know they had a staggering budget to work with .. but I think the producers thought they could get away with the thought that a 23rd Century section of a starship could look like something out of 20th century plant. If they do a time travel where they try to save Vulcan .. and alter the future again ... perhaps a slightly different Enterprise will emerge .. and with it .. an engineering section that looks like something out of the 23rd Century. The producers cleverly used time travel to alter the future ... and thus, they were able to come up with a different Enterprise design. Well .. who's to say "Time travel change #2" won't alter the design in a few subtle ways (??) We'll see.
Originally Posted By oc_dean For your viewing pleasure - Enterprise's Warp "Bear Brewery" Drive: <a href="http://brookstonbeerbulletin.com/star-treks-engineering-deck-brewery/" target="_blank">http://brookstonbeerbulletin.c...brewery/</a>
Originally Posted By oc_dean ugh. Well ... can't be mad at me for mis-spelling Beer. I don't drink beer .. so it's easy for me to spell it "bear".
Originally Posted By Autopia Deb I know the wanted to do as much "in camera" as possible to give it a better sense of realness. I don't think using the brewery was just a cost cutting move.
Originally Posted By fkurucz <<I know they had a staggering budget to work with .. but I think the producers thought they could get away with the thought that a 23rd Century section of a starship could look like something out of 20th century plant.>> Blame Battlestar Galactica for this. The remake of BSG was almost a revolt against "futurisic" Sc Fi. Hence no laser weapons, the interior of Galactica looks like the interior of a naval ship, etc.
