Originally Posted By Pixie Glitter <---straight <---conservative Christian <---in favor of all equal rights for gays, including the right to legally marry (<---also tired of seeing the constant bashing and name calling here in WE of organized religion in general and Christians in particular, but that's a whole nother topic).
Originally Posted By ChurroMonster Please understand that you are the exception to the rule. That said, I will cease all blanket statements regarding conservative Christians. Cool?
Originally Posted By dennis-in-ct I will take the lead from Churro and also stop referring to the conservative religious right as fascist .... Thank you for being straight but not narrow minded. I am all for inconclusive beliefs as long as they don't infringe on civil liberties or promote hatred. There are many lamps, but the light is the same. And InSpector57, tell me where to send the wedding gift
Originally Posted By Mr X Am I still allowed to call them fascists? (I don't believe they are, by and large...but some of them, well...okay I'll shut up now ;D)
Originally Posted By Mr X Pixie, I agree with Dennis and Churro that you are correct and fair in pointing out that it's wrong to throw all people of a certain faith or persuasion under a big umbrella, since there are as many different viewpoints as there are humans on this Earth. I'll try and remember your comment that way going forward.
Originally Posted By Pixie Glitter Wow! Thank you, gentlemen, for being so open minded in your reception of my comment. I appreciate that very much. But Churro. . . I am not the exception to the rule. I might very well be the exception to the rule among the self-proclaimed Christians who post in WE. But among Christians in general? Nope. Sadly some of the loudest and most visible "Christians" out there are those who are preaching far, far different views than those espoused by true followers of Christ. This is true of many groups, don't you think? The most visible and most militant are rarely truly representative of the group at large. Throughout my lifetime, the vast majority of religious people I've known (of most religions, not just Christianity) are good people who try very hard to walk the walk. But there are always the wild-eyed, self serving individuals who wave their own religion's banner aggressively but don't do much in the way of trying to practice the tenets of that faith in the way they live their lives and treat other people. *They* are the exception. (And can I just say how bizarre, in a wonderful way, it is to be having a friendly conversation about this here?)
Originally Posted By melekalikimaka I think we realize that the most vocally religious are often the ones who aren't quite as great as they seem to think. It does sound like we attack wholly attack all religious people on here but most often, most of us are really just talking about the worst of the worst. I've known so many good, Christian people who really go out of their way to walk the walk and they do not use their religion to hurt or judge others. I wish they got more credit than they do.
Originally Posted By melekalikimaka But also, I think it's unfair to just say that only religion has been under attack in WE. There have been many negative statements about gays, also. The thing that has people so fired up is about actions being taken against gays in the name of religion and these actions trump the words said here.
Originally Posted By Pixie Glitter I didn't say that only religion has been under attack. Obviously all sorts of people and groups have been under attack. I was just speaking up on behalf of religious people because I didn't see much support, and I felt that the blanket statements were unfair and inaccurate. Blanket statements about any group is bigotry, plain and simple. Sadly that happens all over the place, and against all different groups of people.
Originally Posted By melekalikimaka Yeah, I wish I could edit my post because I know you didn't say they were the only group under attack. It would have been nice if more people had chimed in *those* threads to say their piece but I can understand not volunteering to get reamed. But if more reasonable people entered the conversations, maybe they wouldn't get so bad in the first place. When religious zealots are the only ones leading the conversation, it's hard to not address that zealotry. I shouldn't have to constantly say "I know that all Christians don't do this but..." in every comment. I really try to make sure that I am only talking about a certain type of Christian (or other person) in my posts but I cannot do it every single time. I feel like people need to speak up if they want their side presented. I also think that maybe a separate thread *should* have been started for that discussion instead of bringing it up in this thread because it rather detracts from the intent to show support here.
Originally Posted By Pixie Glitter <<<I feel like people need to speak up if they want their side presented.>>> Absolutely. That's why I spoke up. I chose to speak up here because it seemed a very appropriate place to point out that not all religious people are anti-gay. But you're right, it does derail the thread a bit. So back to the topic at hand.
Originally Posted By melekalikimaka <<Absolutely. That's why I spoke up. >>' Ha! A minor detail that I won't let get in *my* way. ;-)
