Originally Posted By ssWEDguy I'm not a WDI insider, so I don't have absolute information. However, I have personally seen the water damage in the men's locker room off the main utilidor entrance. Such damage doesn't appear in other areas of the utilidor. When you look at floor plans for the area, the wall of the men's locker room exactly follows the curvature of the submarine lagoon. So the two were very close to each other. Leakage seems evident. Also -- since the attraction was closed they physically removed the entire roof of the submarine show building, AND the entire concrete floor of the structure. (Thought two of the building's sidewalls remain) If it weren't structural water leakage problems, then why would they spend ANY money removing a roof and a concrete floor? It couldn't have been cheap to do that.
Originally Posted By mrichmondj I don't really know why we are lamenting the loss of the WDW subs. It was a pretty atmospheric feature, but the ride itself was pretty lame. Horrendous lines followed by cheesy effects. I miss the lagoon and the sight of the subs underway, but the ride itself was nothing to write home about.
Originally Posted By ssWEDguy >> It was a pretty atmospheric feature << You might be right about some of the ride's effects. But not all. And the atmospherics of the sub ride were no small thing. They were on another plane.
Originally Posted By crazyformickey All I know when I saw the video of the subs for the new finding Nemo ride at DL all I could think is "I want that at WDW"
Originally Posted By Labuda Whoa, hold up! Stop the presses! "When my son wrote Disney about 8 years ago," You have a son, vbdad!?!?!?
Originally Posted By mrichmondj <<< Speaking of which, darn Dreamflights gone >>> Didn't hold a candle to "If You Had Wings!"
Originally Posted By t1lersm0m Labuda, vbdad was quoting demderedoseguys, he just forgot to keep the quotes.
Originally Posted By gaston lives It wasn't a great ride, but it was nostalgic. 20K was one of Disney's best movies, then the ride was beloved my many. Check out some of the tribute sites like www.20kride.com and thigns like that and you'll find a lot of history on it. I used to love to be on the skyway and look down on the lagoon and imagine diving off into it to take on the friggin' squid all by my lonesome...but I was a wuss and never did it. I wouldn't mind as much if they would have put SOMETHING other than a playground there. I mean, if kids want to play on a playground, you take them to Toontown/Mickey's Fair and let them play there. It's out of the way, and a good place to do that. Fantasyland is NOT a good place to do that, because you already have a Pooh ride...why have two attractions in the same land nearly right across from each other? It's poor park planning.
Originally Posted By LuvDatDisney <<< Speaking of which, darn Dreamflights gone >>> "Didn't hold a candle to "If You Had Wings!"" AMEN!!!
Originally Posted By avromark Never knew Tyler's mom had a name, thought her name was always Tyler's Mom, I thought it said that on her birth certificate <<<<< Speaking of which, darn Dreamflights gone >>> "Didn't hold a candle to "If You Had Wings!"">> I would take, either or both. I meant it in an all inclusive way.
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom There are a few different arguements here. 1) The removal of 20K. 2) OK so if your going to remove it are you going to give us a decent ride or show since 20K took up a lot of valueable real estate in Fantasyland. 3) Instead we get a lousey Poo Playground which occupies a small area of the previous 20K ride and which is only be enjoyed by an extremely small number of guests to the MK.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <Whoa, hold up! Stop the presses! "When my son wrote Disney about 8 years ago," You have a son, vbdad!?!?!?< LOL- not that I know of
Originally Posted By CMM1 For those of us that actually saw the original 20K Leagues movie when it was still in theatres (I saw it when it was re-released in the early '60s), the 20K Leagues ride at WDW was certainly a childhood fantasy come true. I remember the first time I went on that ride as there was a thunder and lightning storm in the distance and the idea of being in that tropical setting with such spectacular surroundings to board this fantastical creation (really, Disney's Nautilus subs were the best ever adapation of a concept found in a novel) was a great experience. Yes, the ride was a bit cheezy but isn't that sometimes what WDW or Disneyland is all about? So now DL is getting "Nemo" (the cartoon not the Verne character) and WDW gets who knows what? I would agree with those that say that removing the 20K Leagues lagoon would open up a whole new area in the back of the park - wouldn't that be a great place to build a Florida version of the volcano from DisneySea with the JTTCOTE and 20K Leagues rides? Now that would be a great addition to WDW's MK park!
Originally Posted By tonyanton Not a bad idea, though I'd like to see that at Disney-MGM, with the Little Mermaid dark ride and a Villains Mountain taking the space of the old subs, along with a Fab dark ride for Toontown Fair.
Originally Posted By Eric Paddon 20K and Mr. Toad's Wild Ride across the way from it, were for me, the epitome of the best WDW had to offer during its golden age. When I went back to WDW two years ago for the first time since 1993, when both those attractions were still up and runnig, the hardest part was walking through that area and seeing both of those rides gone. I envy DL that they're getting a sub ride back and once it's up and running, that's when I'll start trying to plan my first ever trip out there.
Originally Posted By trekkeruss <<20K and Mr. Toad's Wild Ride across the way from it, were for me, the epitome of the best WDW had to offer during its golden age>> The epitome? Hmmmm.
