Originally Posted By vbdad55 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ have to remember everyone has their favorite attractions...
Originally Posted By CMM1 EP: Well, at least they still have Toad at DL as opposed to removing it completely from all parks. Not all that crazy about the upcoming Nemo ride at DL though. Understand from a number of reliable posters that the DisneySea 20K Leagues ride is a bit of a dog with fleas (bad seating, subs not nearly as spectacular as original WDW versions) - too bad they couldn't have worked out a better execution for such a great concept.
Originally Posted By trekkeruss <<Understand from a number of reliable posters that the DisneySea 20K Leagues ride is a bit of a dog with fleas (bad seating,>> I think the only bad thing about the seating is that if you are taller than the average Japanese person, you'll have to lean over a bit more to see out the portholes, which are large, but set low. <<subs not nearly as spectacular as original WDW versions)>> They are not spectacular, but they are also far smaller than the WDW movie-versions. 20K is basically a dark ride, with relatively small vehicles visible only from the loading area. <<- too bad they couldn't have worked out a better execution for such a great concept.>> Don't poo-poo it if you haven't actually experienced it. 20K at TDS is executed very well... the illusion of going deep underwater is far more convincing than on Disney's "real" subs; a real adventure. It's a great attraction.
Originally Posted By nats30 A great thrill in the old days was to ride the buckets in the skyway and look down at the subs. A very magical experience.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros The leaky lagoon has always seemed to be one of the main reasons for 20K closing. But, when it closed, they just left it there. They did'n drain it. They didn't patch it up. They didn't do anything. What was there to stop the water from leaking. The only difference is that there are no longer subs moving around the lagoon and there is no more chlorine. I know that the chemicals can break down some substances used to make the lagoon, but I don't think that not having the chemicals would patch up the holes. Although it seems to be the excuse with the most credibility, it still has a big loop hole.
Originally Posted By trekkeruss Just theorizing, but taking away the mechanical stress and vibration of the subs could explain why the lagoon could be kept full of water when they weren't there. It's all water under the bridge... or under the cement. It's part of WDW history now.
Originally Posted By ssWEDguy >> was to ride the buckets in the skyway and look down at the subs. A very magical experience. << How true. What a beautiful scene.
Originally Posted By ssWEDguy >> But, when it closed, they just left it there. They did'n drain it. They didn't patch it up. << Can any one tell me why they eventually removed the roof AND FLOOR of the sub show building? That cost big money. Why not just drain the showbuilding of all the water, and leave the roof and floor intact?
Originally Posted By LuvDatDisney The 'leaky lagoon' theory has very little to no basis in fact. 20K was removed because it was aging and costly to operate. Just that simple.
Originally Posted By fkurucz Walt was very proud of his sub "fleet". Even though its not a "thrilling" or "cutting edge" attraction I am glad that it will be returning to DL.
Originally Posted By trekkeruss <<The 'leaky lagoon' theory has very little to no basis in fact. 20K was removed because it was aging and costly to operate. Just that simple.>> But can it not be said that it's possible that a leaking lagoon was one of the symptoms of its aging? It could be a case like Horizons, where Disney didn't bother to maintain the attraction and its building... to the point of having to close it, and eventually tear it down.
Originally Posted By ssWEDguy >> The 'leaky lagoon' theory has very little to no basis in fact. << Ok. My question is then -- have you seen all the damaged floor tiles in the men's locker room just off the MK utilidor entrance? I don't see damage like that elsewhere in the utilidor. Yes, it's possible it's a local effect, and possibly even a plumbing problem. But I wonder . . . . . .
Originally Posted By vbdad55 Either way - they could have replaced 20K with an updated version - they chose not to and gave us that cheap playground instead....and please I don't want to hear how they're saving the land for the next big thing..it will be 12 years in September...and even the rumors have stopped...in the mean time they have built Disney Tokyo Sea and HK Disneyland - complete parks --
