Originally Posted By jonvn "Okay, so Al Lutz, Darkbeer, the OC Register and now gadzuux have all come to the 1000-1200 per hour conclusion." I wouldn't be surpsied if it is that low. They have to do a lot of stuff that loads and unloads that vehicle, and it is simply not going to happen in 30 seconds. It's not that Al is wrong on this. I just found it amusing how you were saying it. "That's far below demand. And the 15k that do get to ride will have waited in a line that stretches for more than three hours." Lines were well over an hour. WELL over. Towards the end, it was a quick line, but that's because many people had stopped riding it.
Originally Posted By trekkeruss The biggest problem with the Subs is that they were designed when the general population of the United States wasn't so obese. It's going to be a lot more crowded down there than in 1959.
Originally Posted By gadzuux I'm guessing that the 1000/1200 estimates are actually a rosy scenario. This is assuming that all subs are operating at all times. If even two are removed from the "fleet" of eight, that reduces capacity to about 750/800 - about the same as dumbo. At that point they'd likely shut the attraction altogether, rather than try and maintain an active queue for such low capacity.
Originally Posted By TP2000 >>"The biggest problem with the Subs is that they were designed when the general population of the United States wasn't so obese."<< Very true. Check out the new Your Host Walt Disney DVD set and watch the Kodak Presents Disneyland '59 TV special where the Subs were opened on TV. Everyone in that show were little skinny people, in attractive little clothes. If you were to zap someone from 1959 to Disneyland circa 2006 they would likely fear for their lives at all the giant and obese people waddling around dodging the even bigger people rolling around the park on rented ECV's. I went over to Tom Sawyer Island recently to see it one last time before it changes to Pirates Lair (assuming Al Lutz was right, of course). I hadn't been over there in years. I went to the restroom and was AMAZED. The doors and stalls and sinks were all wedged in this little narrow space. There is no way a modern day person we would now consider "chunky" could fit comfortably in there. And any moder person morbidly obese enough to be considered "fat" couldn't even fit through the entry. Clearly this was a bathroom designed in 1956 under the assumption that no one would ever drink more than 6 ounces of Coca-Cola in one sitting. (Youngsters take note; Coca-Cola used to come in small glass bottle that held 6.5 ounces of Coke. That was considered a single serving, and it was a beverage reserved for special occasions like a date at the movies or a refreshing pause during a busy day. You didn't guzzle 50 ounces of it at one time out of small buckets handed to you through a drive-thru window. You can still buy Coke in glass bottles if you look hard on the supermarket shelf, but the glass is thinner now and the bottles now hold 8 ounces instead of 6.5 ounces.) The submarines will likely be the same way. We are all in for a shock that first time we clamber down into that 1959 ride vehicle, as I bet we've forgotten just how narrow it is and how tiny the seats are. The big'uns of the 21st century may not even be able to make it down into the sub vehicles.
Originally Posted By jmuboy maybe the ADA room for the Nemo Subs will run at full capacity for all the overweight people?
Originally Posted By lasvegasgirl TP 2000 --- I just got that DVD for Christmas ! It is really neat to see all the things back then !
Originally Posted By kennedyjane I'm so excited! DH and I are going home to vist Uncle Mickey and Aunt Minnie June 27 thru July 1st. Woohoo, I don't care how long that line is I'll wait. DH and I have really enjoyed Darkbeer's pictures of the construction of the subs. I only rode the classic subs a few times 87 and 92. Can't wait for Nemo and the Seagulls. Go Seagulls!
Originally Posted By FerretAfros At least this is one attraction that people will not be renting wheelchairs in an attempt to bypass the line. Although it would be interesting to compare the two versions, I think the word will get out that weelchairs aren't a good way to skip out on the line.
Originally Posted By avromark Do you know how many wheelchairs can fit in the wheelchair viewing room? As well I wonder if anyone knows what the differences in the experience is. I guess in a few months we'll be hearing about it.
Originally Posted By Darkbeer ^Based on the outside walls, I would say no more than about 4 to 8, maybe a few more guests on regular seats.
Originally Posted By Skippy 30 tons of crushed glass was used to paint 40 diffferent colors --------------- 30 tons! The Matterhorn will sink for sure!
