Originally Posted By Darkbeer >>The attraction will run far more efficiently without Fast Pass...<< I have to agree with David, as much as I would PERSONALLY have FP's, as I know how to work the system. Based on the about 1,500 per person hour capacity if running at full capacity and staffing, the FP's would run out within the first hour or two on busy days.... I think they are doing the best thing due to the large crowds expected, they can always add FP later....
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <The other option is to run to the Subs first thing when the park opens--but I'm almost 50 and I have no interest in doing that kind of thing anymore.> If you really get there at opening and just walk to the subs, you shouldn't have THAT bad of a wait, I wouldn't think.
Originally Posted By jmuboy There is also talk of the subs opening early with Main Street to help with the lines and getting more people on the ride.
Originally Posted By Skellington88 well if they fast track the Star Tours 2 and Peoplemover projects the lines will be more evenly balanced and there will be less conjestion.
Originally Posted By onlyme I used to think that FP was the greatest invention and couldn't figure out why ppl would say otherwise. Well, after seeing it in action and visiting the Parks as much as I have the past couple of years. I have to change my position (not that anyone cares what I think.) I wholeheartedly agree with iluv when he states that the ride will run more effeciently without it. At first glance, it seems to be a strange phenomenon, but it's absolutely true. A FP attraction standby line moves about 1/4 of the pace of a non-FP attraction line...if that makes sense??
Originally Posted By onlyme I should add that I am not against FP. Like DB, my wife and I know how to use it and, therefore, don't spend too much time in lines...unlike some, who not knowing what it is, still give the dirty looks as you pass them in line
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt "The park went forty-five years without Fast Pass..." And from what I recollect the Subs' queue was horribly inefficient.
Originally Posted By SIR at X-S Tech Thank god for Fastpass. Now we can get onto those really crappy Pressler/Harriss era attractions so much quicker
Originally Posted By Indigo I have to agree that subs loading and unloading was horribly inefficient. I really hope they've introduced some loading efficiencies into the subs and dock.
Originally Posted By pitapan16 It's just undignified for a middle-aged person to be running through a theme park first thing in the morning! Nonsense. My Dad is going to be 50 this january and is just as strong or stronger at everything physically than I am at 20. That guy is a rarity, but I'm just saying its possible. I consider myself quite athletic is practically everything, but I think my Dad is just a beast.
Originally Posted By pitapan16 I for one, a LOVER and user of Fast Pass, am glad to see the subs will not have Fast Pass. The rides unique vehicles, low capacity and confined load/unload/queue space make fast pass a bad idea for this ride. Tushay. It seems to me that to leave out Fastpass was a wise decision trhis time around. I too utilize fastpass always, so I hardly ever wait over 10 minutes for anything and everything I want to go on, but this time it may be for the better.
Originally Posted By Skellington88 man if Paul Pressler and Cynthia Harris were still in charge we wouldnt even have this problem! Know why? because the subs would never reopen and then we wouldnt have to stand in line for half a day to ride the sub voyage! Lets bring back paul pressler!
Originally Posted By knightnfrees Having Fastpass speeds you through the popular attractions, sure. But, w/o it people would be staying in the parks longer (and purchasing muti-day tix) for rides they "must see". And keeping people in the parks longer is something Disney, would want to do, no doubt more money would be made. I remember before Fastpass, you couldn't get done with the entire park in one day. The 2 or 3 day passes were ideal. Then again, the ratio of attractions in DL is alot less than it was 10 yrs ago.
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt "man if Paul Pressler and Cynthia Harris were still in charge we wouldnt even have this problem! Know why? because the subs would never reopen and then we wouldnt have to stand in line for half a day to ride the sub voyage!" Didn't the Subs get the green light while Cynthia was running the place?
Originally Posted By SIR at X-S Tech The subs may have been moving forward in some way but the actual green light was not given until well after Matt was in office.
Originally Posted By LindsayC <<I do wonder what the sub names will be, will they change or remain the same?>> Avromark, there are four subs which will retain their names and four will have new ones: Same: Nautilus, Neptune, Explorer, Argonaut New: Scout, Seafarer, Mariner, Voyager
Originally Posted By oc_dean >>So, simply saying that because the park didn't have it before, it doesn't need it now--that doesn't really wash. People have a choice about whether to use FastPass or wait in the Standby line. It's a choice. Some people chose to stand in line. I can't imagine why. I chose to get a FastPass and NOT stand in line. << Let me give an example: Space Mountain. From 1977 up to the invention of Fast Pass. The line ALWAYS moved fast. And so no matter how backed up it was .. I'd get in line .. and enjoy a ride. Since FP ... the standard line crawls at a snail's pace. And now I don't ride it anymore. I miss it. (FPs sell out too quickly earlier in the day.) So .. to say "the park didn't have it before" .. is to say, it WAS a better park without. Good ridance to FP!
Originally Posted By oc_dean And I hate the sub sign. The font is so plain. What? They couldn't choose a more "futuristic" styled font, like they have with other Tomorrowland attractions. It screams "modern day/contemporary". Welcome to Todayland. That is what it enforces. Who's the idiot who chose this font?
Originally Posted By wangaroa Foo? You seen de originoh sine? Gots same sans-sheriff font, G. New sign be sweet KONTEMPORARY in the ARKitexture cents, noam sayn. Screamin' BAUHOWSE. Gots all the originoh flava, none duh KALorees, noam sayn? Peace, this ryd gonna knock yo' britches off, mah homees. Wangsta out.
