Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>Next time your kid asks for a soda, go put three tablespoons of sugar on a small plate or bowl.<< Hey, that's a grandparent's job!
Originally Posted By ecdc >>Crap, that's what happens when you try to multitask. (If anyone is looking for a roof in the Seattle area, there's your link.)<< Hey, it could've been worse. A lot worse.
Originally Posted By Goofyernmost >>>Anyway, would you let your kid eat three tablespoons of sugar straight out of the sugar bowl like that? Or dump three tablespoons of sugar in a glass of water and drink it? Probably not. But that's what you're doing any time you give them a soda.<<< I'm not sure any point is made by that. Sugar is primarily used to sweeten foods/beverages to remove bitterness. There is no real purpose in eating sugar straight unless it's those nifty tubes of colored sugar that we used to buy for a penny when I was a kid. They still have that, I think. We also used to drink Koolaid by the gallon. So there is a major precedent already set for that. Maybe a better question would be salt. Would you eat a spoonful of salt? Yet, salt is added to almost everything, doesn't mean that by itself it is easily consumable. The point is that I feel that ANYTHING, with the exception of poison, is probably ok when done in moderation and harmful if overused. No study or statement has ever been made that would make me shy away from sugar or it's many substitutes. It's usage helps me enjoy life a little more. The way I see it...I don't care what I do I am going to eventually die. If I never touched any of those terribly evil additives...nothing is going to change that. If it causes me to check out before I end up sitting there drooling on myself or requiring adult diapers, well that's a plus in my book.
Originally Posted By TomSawyer "There is no real purpose in eating sugar straight" But drinking it is okay.
Originally Posted By crapshoot <<"There is no real purpose in eating sugar straight" But drinking it is okay.>> For cola drinks, no one is just drinking sugar, they are consuming artificial caramel coloring which has now determined to be a cancer causing compound. The responsible cola manufacturers didn't even blink, they simply reduced the amount of caramel coloring they use. Way to go Big Cola!
Originally Posted By mawnck >>Anyway, would you let your kid eat three tablespoons of sugar straight out of the sugar bowl like that?<< No, but three tablespoons of HFCS ....
Originally Posted By fkurucz >>I thought that was Mary Poppin's job!<< A spoon full of HFCS helps the medicine go down?
Originally Posted By Princessjenn5795 I have always been interested in health and nutrition, and am studying to be a nurse, which means I have had to take a number of classes related to how the body works. Since my husband was diagnosed with cancer a few weeks ago I have been doing even more research into nutrition. HFCS and refined sugar are very similar in what they do to the body, and neither of them is good. Unfortunately, they are added to a whole of items, some of which you would never think of. You should get all of the sugar your body needs (and your body, particularly your brain does need sugar to function, so no-carb diets are actually pretty bad for you) from fruits and vegetables, and not added sugar when possible. Using fruit juices or natural honey as sweeteners are good alternatives if you need to add sugar to something. Refined sugars should be used very sparingly. If you do use refined sugar, try to find raw, unbleached sugar. Artificial sweeteners are even worse for you. They may have lower calories, but our bodies were not designed to process them. While they do not specifically cause cancer, as some will say they do, they can cause problems for people. Some of the most common are digestive problems, like diarrhea and indigestion, headaches (I actually cannot eat anything with either Saccharine or aspartame, because they give me migraines, and they are both very common triggers for migraine sufferers), and there is some evidence that they can actually lead to some pretty bad metabolic disorders, thereby negating any benefits of using them for weight control. My basic philosophy is to eat a plant rich diet, use as many whole and unprocessed ingredients as possible, and try not to put any more crap into my body than is necessary.
Originally Posted By ecdc Just realized I didn't see mawnck's response on the other thread. I'm pasting it here so I can respond point by point. >>I'm not giving the food industry a free pass by any means. But why do they even need propaganda here? You don't get a free pass on "HFCS is evil" until you have some proof. And the majority of the proof offered so far has been on the same level as creationists and climate change deniers. But we're just supposed to believe it anyway because "well everybody knows the food industry sucks"? Nope, not good enough. If you have a reputable scientific study showing there's a problem specific to HFCS, then let's see it. Princeton's study wasn't it.<< Yeah...I totally agree with all that. I'd just say that if the "you" is directed at me, then I don't think HFCS is evil. That is all.
Originally Posted By Goofyernmost Superhighfructosecornsyrup is not on trial here. Highfructosecornsyrup is! Along with sugar, carmal, water, spoons or anything that has flavor worth eating and afternoon and evening thundershowers, if we are not careful.
Originally Posted By Autopia Deb >>> Using fruit juices or natural honey as sweeteners are good alternatives if you need to add sugar to something<<< But apple juice tastes icky in coffee ;-).
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>But apple juice tastes icky in coffee<< Hmmm. True, but just in case, I'm calling Starbucks to pitch a new fall drink: Frappleccino.™
Originally Posted By andyll <<You don't get a free pass on "HFCS is evil" until you have some proof. And the majority of the proof offered so far has been on the same level as creationists and climate change deniers. >> You are the one that posted a link to an article that made sweeping conclusions about the safety of HFCS based solely on the simplistic idea that because both sugar and HFCS both contain glucose and fructose that their effect on the body is the same. <<If you have a reputable scientific study showing there's a problem specific to HFCS, then let's see it. Princeton's study wasn't it>> Why wasn't the Princeton study and the 4-5 other studies posted here not good enough? Especially since there has not been one study posted that shows that HFCS is not worst for you then pure sugar. Nobody here is saying that HFCS is toxic or not safe. ( except when they were putting mercury in it ) But there is a difference between saying HFCS is safe and saying that it is just as healthy as the sugar it is replacing.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<Superhighfructosecornsyrup sounds like something quite atrocious.>> If you say it loud enough You'll always sound precocious Superhighfructosecornsyrup! But wouldn't it sound much better with "expialidocious" added to thed end? I leave the decision to you Kar2oonMan... you are the expert in these matters!
Originally Posted By RoadTrip By the way... great use for HONEY. Take a tablespoon of it, swallow slowly and it will almost instantaneously cure hiccups. I've been doing it for years. Recently my great-niece had a bad case of hiccups that had lasted for almost an hour. I advised her of the "honey cure", but as a typical teen she ignored me. Until she finally got desperate and tried it. Hiccups GONE within a minute!
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder "Recently my great-niece had a bad case of hiccups that had lasted for almost an hour." I have a couple of nephews but I'd hardly call either one of them great. Moody, maybe, whiny, but not great.
