Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< Looks like DCA exceeded attendance projections on every day but one!!! >>> Holy Dalmatians, Batman! That's an interesting way to glean a small tidbit of good information out of otherwise bleak figures.
Originally Posted By Darkbeer Interesting to note, in the Second Quarter Conference Call today, Tom Staggs reported that the Disneyland Resort attendance was up 15% as compared to the 2nd quarter of last year. (WDW was only up about 3%, mainly due to higher local attendance, which resulted in lower spending per person) How much of the additional attendance for DCA is just Disneyland overflow? Looking at the numbers Al reported, looks like Disneyland is getting more folks over plan than DCA is....
Originally Posted By WorldEpcot >>Looking at the numbers Al reported, looks like Disneyland is getting more folks over plan than DCA is....<< Way to spin.
Originally Posted By planodisney I think you are all wet SuperDry. If they exceeded attendance projections, and were up from the same days last year, that isnt gleaning a tidbit of good news. It is GOOD news. Just because you choose to sop up the negative spin Al put on it, doesnt prove anything. If they exceeded projections, and IF attendance was up from same time last year, i would be extremely interested in your explanation of how that would be bleak news. But, I am fairly confident that you will try your darndest to do so.
Originally Posted By planodisney my understanding is that WDW attendance dropped significantly this month as well, and they are dramatically discounting hotel rooms. I guess WDW is in BLEAK times. There is a little thing called OFF SEASON guys!! DCA's attendance is not going to be anything Earth shatterring until they add a couple more attractions and complete this Placemaking Project and possible Lagoon Show. What is so difficult to comprehend about that. You guys complain about quick fixes not helping attendance and not being good for the long term of the park, but then you complain about current attendance in the face of LONG TERM solutions on the way for the park. Is it just that complaning is too much fun, anyway you can get it.
Originally Posted By kmovies I guess that Al has proved my point. The 2for offer HELPED BOTH PARKS. NOT JUST DCA. THANK YOU!!!! THANK YOU!!!!! Look at how POORLY DL has done since the 2for expired DL drops from 64,300 to 49,800 to 42,100 on Saturdays DL drops from 59,700 to 44,500 to 41,800 on Sundays THANK YOU for proving that the promotion helped the resort overall. It helped BOTH PARKS. It wasn't just helping DCA since they were giving DCA away for free. Giving DCA away for free caused A LOT MORE TRAFFIC TO DISNEYLAND that would not have been there otherwise. It wasn't just people showing up and being talked into getting two tickets instead of the one ticket that they wanted anyways. THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! for showing us that both parks lost traffic after the promotion ended. OK Al - Let's have THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH. If you say that DCA had 10,000 APs last Sunday - How many did DL have???? I would venture that DL had a lot of AP clicks too. Not providing that number does look like you are hiding the fact that DL benefits greatly from the AP program too.
Originally Posted By kmovies Al's Slanted New ... Saturday, April 22nd was the first day ever that they had to limit entry into both Disneyland and DCA due to the overwhelming crowds as thousands of people showed up to use their second day at DCA. Why would DL sell out when people were using their 2nd day at DCA ???? He should rewrite it as follows ... using their first day at DL and second day at DCA filled both parks. But he doesn't want to report the WHOLE TRUTH.
Originally Posted By Darkbeer >>Saturday, April 22nd was the first day ever that they had to limit entry into both Disneyland and DCA due to the overwhelming crowds as thousands of people showed up to use their second day at DCA. << Say WHAT!!!!! That is just plain wrong... There was NO restrictions to Disneyland, ONLY DCA... In fact, TDA folks were walking up and down the lines to get into DCA offering folks the chance to go to Disneyland a second time if they had a 2fer ticket, and many folks took them up on the offer!
Originally Posted By kmovies I thought that on Saturday DL sold out and on Sunday DCA sold out from the discussion boards here.
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt "What is so difficult to comprehend about that." Thank you planodisney. It all much ado about nothing.
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt >There was NO restrictions to Disneyland, ONLY DCA...< Um, not according to the all-knowing Al Lutz... "Saturday, April 22nd was the first day ever that they had to limit entry into both Disneyland and DCA due to the overwhelming crowds as thousands of people showed up to use their second day at DCA."
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt ^^Sorry, I failed to mention that that quote is from Al's latest blog.
Originally Posted By Darkbeer Interesting to note that looking at the "projected" attendance, during the end of the 2fer, then after...... DCA attendance drops in half (or more), while Disneyland drops about a 1/3'rd.... looks like the 2fer is major driver to DCA's attendance
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt Right, the promotion is obviously driving attendance at both parks. I'm not sure what the critics are trying to prove here...
Originally Posted By kmovies Let's see DL dropped 25% or 15000 people - guess it was a MAJOR driver of DL attendance too.
Originally Posted By disneywatcher >> I'm not sure what the critics are trying to prove here... << That's likely what Eisner, Braverman and Pressler have been asking since well before and after 2001. It's a miracle DCA didn't turn out to be an even bigger dud.
