Originally Posted By disneywatcher ^ Too bad the boobs who created and developed DCA didn't have a similar reaction when looking at the concepts for and working model of their second-rate park. Meanwhile, it looks like there now may be a third Disney park in the world, alongside DCA and Disney Studios in Paris, whose attendance either will be barely above or below a few non-Disney theme parks. And another Disney park that that the DisCo feels must have both better marketing and greater understanding of that market: >>>>> L.A. Times: Announcing its earnings this week, Disney said crowd figures at Hong Kong Disneyland had been lower than expected, but that it still expected to hit a one-year goal of 5.6 million visitors. Disney gave no details about the number of visitors or revenue from its Hong Kong park. "We clearly have a lot to learn about the market," Disney Chief Executive Robert Iger said Tuesday. "Overall, I don't think our marketing efforts have been as effective as they could be. But we're going to figure this out." <<<<<
Originally Posted By bean posted by darkbeer - "Interesting to note that looking at the "projected" attendance, during the end of the 2fer, then after...... DCA attendance drops in half (or more), while Disneyland drops about a 1/3'rd.... looks like the 2fer is major driver to DCA's attendance Maybe if Al posted the correct projected numbers instead of latering them to meet his needs i would agree with you. The numbers that AL posted for DCA's projection are wrong. If he had posted the correct numbers people would see that DCA's drop is less than you are saying and that the reall attendance numbers ctaully were muhc higher than the projection. At the same time Maybe he could also post the correct numbers for Disneyland because again he changed them to meet his needs. His numbers actually do not show the real drop of attendance. the percentage was much higher than you and him are trying to make people believe. Both DCA and Disneyland attendance drop were very close in comparison and like someone said DCA beat projections. The projections that took into account the end of the promotion and yes EASTER BREAK which for some reason keeps getting lost in both Al's and your comments.
Originally Posted By bean "Meanwhile, it looks like there now may be a third Disney park in the world, alongside DCA and Disney Studios in Paris, whose attendance either will be barely above or below a few non-Disney theme parks. And another Disney park that that the DisCo feels must have both better marketing and greater understanding of that market: did you not understand the paragraph that says that the park was built to have a yearly attendance of 5.6 million. How would you expect it to have a bigger attendance if it wasn;t built with that in mind. the park is in its first phase of construction. It was planned that way by Disney and the Chinese government.
Originally Posted By disneywatcher >> did you not understand the paragraph that says that the park was built to have a yearly attendance of 5.6 million. << What's to understand? I guess I should have commended the company's modest goals while noting they're apparently still too ambitious since Robert Iger does question the effectiveness of current sales efforts in Hong Kong -- which makes me think of one of the main responses to dealing with DCA's lackluster premiere in Anaheim -- and the DisCo's understanding of the Chinese market.
Originally Posted By Darkbeer Bean, are you talking about those numbers posted over at MouseInfo, let me repost something that Westsider posted here at LP... <a href="http://mb.laughingplace.com/default.asp?WCI=MsgBoard&WCE=T-74836-P-12&Refresh=0423213242&C=1" target="_blank">http://mb.laughingplace.com/de fault.asp?WCI=MsgBoard&WCE=T-74836-P-12&Refresh=0423213242&C=1</a> >>If Marcie's posts are TDA's attempts at getting their spin out there in an unofficial way, then I'm not impressed. In fact, I'm kind of embarassed for them. Her info about attendance is often wrong, and she usually makes stuff up to try and make DCA attendance look better than reality. I've seen her do that numerous times over the past few years. I know it may seem silly coming from some lowly CM, but I've explained repeatedly in the past how many hourly CM's have access to daily attendance figures, the projected attendance for the day as well as the current in park attendance numbers. When you are a Lead of an E Ticket attraction, your manager looks at their pager with the latest hourly attendance figures and tells you the info point blank so you can plan staffing, queue strategy, Fastpass distribution strategy, etc. Attendance info is also widely discussed at the daily Roll Call the Leads have with their managers. That said, I know what attendance numbers are for key weekends, and the stuff Marcie talks about as an attempt to try and discredit Al's numbers are often very wrong. Al always seems to have the right attendance info, and then Marcie will try and throw out different numbers that pump up DCA's real numbers as both an apparent attempt to discredit Al and make DCA look stronger than it is. And as a Disneyland Lead, I've got friends who are Leads in Guest Services and DCA Attractions. When we talk shop at parties or Starbucks after our shifts, the attendance figures for the day are always thrown out as part of the discussion. Marcie seems to live in another world when it comes to that type of info many times. <<
