Originally Posted By fkurucz >>My next WDW trip with be with a VERY much slacker-looking friend. You can darn well bet your bootie we will NOT win a night in the castle.<< I think tha Disney needs to be careful in not discriminating when selecting winners, as they could end up in a lot of legal hot water. That said, just because a scruffy looking family wins, it doesn't mean that they will use them in promotional material. If a clean cut, upper middle class black or hispanic family were to win, I would definitely expect them to appear in commericals and other promotional materials.
Originally Posted By jaycub I'm honestly surprised that y'all think that Disney would show any discrimination.
Originally Posted By gaston lives The way I figure it, this is all part of a huge marketing campaign for WDW. It's their CHOICE to whom they want to market their park to. Obviously, they want to project the image of a clean cut All-American dream park (not theme park). If this had happened in the 50's, you wouldn't hear anybody complaining or calling foul. All this PC crap is annoying enough as it is. I'm sure that before it's all done the castle will have house whites, blacks, mexicans, asians, english, australian, martian, venetian, or whatever. Don't hate on the white middle class...that's the majority of America. They were targeting their chosen demographic. Let's face it, it sells better.
Originally Posted By gaston lives "I think tha Disney needs to be careful in not discriminating when selecting winners, as they could end up in a lot of legal hot water." I think you're right, but nobody cares about discriminating against the white middles class. We're suppposed to sit back and take it all in since we already get screwed in taxes more than any other demographic. We're the champions of mediocrity!
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORDDU: Now you just listen here a minute, Gaston, duckling! All this clap trap of your is getting us nowhere. What I want to know is why you haven't been over to my cottage in Morva to keep company with me, lately? Are you starting to take me for granted again? If so, I'd be very careful. Hell hath no fury like a witch who's been scorned!!
Originally Posted By gaston lives Well, you knwo...the last time I was over there you didn't have your special brew bubbling up, like I was promised! I'll come over tonight if you can promise me a great evening with all of your sisters in a suite of our own...complete with all the trimmings of a night of dreams!
Originally Posted By Labuda "Don't hate on the white middle class...that's the majority of America. They were targeting their chosen demographic." Yeah, but Terry & I are both white middel class Americans, so we're the target demo, too! I just REALLY doubt we have any chance of winning.
Originally Posted By gaston lives I understand that all too well. When we were there for one week, we saw 4 TOTAL PAIRS of dream ears, and 6 fast passes. TOTAL! I NEVER saw the dream squad, either. The prizes should be more abundant. And they need to give some to me!
Originally Posted By fkurucz We won the dream ears last time (I would have preferred the super fastpasses).
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo To quote Dave from last year's planning video fkurucz, "It's all good".
Originally Posted By Dznygrl I don't think they're going to discriminate against RACE, I think they're going to discriminate against LOOKS. They can be black, white, asian, mexican, WHATEVER as long as they're CUTE. (which excludes my family. We're an odd looking bunch! )
Originally Posted By Liberty Belle >>>because according to contest rules, they'd have to abdicate the bedchambers for an American, Canadian or British citizen<<< This is a joke, right?<< As far as I know, we (Australians) can't enter the sweepstakes (which is really annoying, I might add) but we can win prizes if we're at the parks, same as everyone else. Well, I'd be cracking up if I was at Disneyland, won something and was then told I couldn't get it, anyway!
Originally Posted By Mr X Do you know why? Is it something to do with lottery rules for Australians or something?
Originally Posted By TDLFAN Discrimination is Disney's middle name. As a former CM, I saw it from the inside and now as a guest, I see it from the outside. Anyone who thinks otherwise is living in Fantasyland. In regards to the Dreams thing... I would hope for this fiasco stunt to be terminated at once. Give a real reason to celebrate going to WDW. Not bribes.
Originally Posted By fundog58 The ironic thing about this is that I know people who would have been just as suspicious had a minority family won the first stay in the castle. No matter who won it, however, it leaves a lot of folks feeling bad because they didn't win the big prize or maybe won nothing at all. I'm just not sure this Million Dreams promotion was such a great idea.
Originally Posted By danyoung >I don't think they're going to discriminate against RACE, I think they're going to discriminate against LOOKS. They can be black, white, asian, mexican, WHATEVER as long as they're CUTE.< You hit it there, Dznygrl. I don't think it's a race thing that gives this away as much as the makeup of the family. It's always a happy 4 member family that wins these things. I know a lot of families visit, but the law of averages says that some of this stuff has to be be won by a single guy from Texas, or a gay flight attendant, or 2 college roommates on a break - anything but the modern nuclear family unit.
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< I know a lot of families visit, but the law of averages says that some of this stuff has to be be won by a single guy from Texas, or a gay flight attendant, or 2 college roommates on a break - anything but the modern nuclear family unit. >>> Consider the case of the guest population consisting of an equal number of 4-person families and single guests (that is, guests in the park by themselves). In that case, the law of averages says that a family of four is four times more likely to win than a single guest. Since there are in actuality probably far more families than single guests in the park at any given time, it's probably far more likely than 4-to-1 that a family is going to win, since each person in the family is effectively another entry into the contest. Sorry, I don't smell a conspiracy here.
Originally Posted By NikkiLOVESMickey <<No matter who won it, however, it leaves a lot of folks feeling bad because they didn't win the big prize or maybe won nothing at all. I'm just not sure this Million Dreams promotion was such a great idea.>> Oh poop! This whole thing about people "feeling bad" because they didn't win is just baloney. Some people get lucky, some people don't. Just because someone might get disappointed is no reason to cancel this giveaway, or any giveaway for that matter. This PC "let's make sure everyone is happy" garbage is a real sore spot for me.
Originally Posted By Liberty Belle >>This whole thing about people "feeling bad" because they didn't win is just baloney<< I agree - if I got to a Disney park during the promotion, I really wouldn't expect to win anything. If I did, then great! If I didn't, I'd still have a wonderful time. >>Is it something to do with lottery rules for Australians or something?<< I really don't know ... I don't think we have particularly strict laws when it comes to that sort of thing, so I'm not sure why we can't do the mail-in. Often sweepstakes are only open to US residents, which I can understand but it seems a bit weird when it's open to people from Canada and the UK but not Australians ...
